[erlang-questions] Coon - new tool for building Erlang packages, dependency management and deploying Erlang services

Valery Tikhonov valerii.tikhonov@REDACTED
Mon Feb 12 16:59:50 CET 2018


Frankly speaking, I've expected another type of questions, when writing
announcement.
Again - I selected name `coon` because `raccoon` was occupied. That's all.

Also I've always beleived that programmers are beyond the politics, sexism
and all kind of discriminations. So not using library, that can potentially
be useful is a little bit surprising for me.

It's a pity, that today I can't fully use language to express what I would
like to. But to make everyone happy, I will create a wrapper around coon
for those who don't like coon name itself.

P.S.: Just think - prohibiting words in the language will finally leave you
with empty vocabulary.



2018-02-12 16:25 GMT+01:00 Roman Galeev <jamhedd@REDACTED>:

> > denigrate protected groups
>
> I'm quite sure you can use any given word for that.
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 4:22 PM, Loïc Hoguin <essen@REDACTED> wrote:
>
>> That's the thing about identity politics, it's not all offensive words
>> that are bad, it's only those that can be used to denigrate protected
>> groups (regardless of intent or how old or local the meaning is).
>>
>> On 02/12/2018 04:18 PM, Roman Galeev wrote:
>>
>>> Well, we have git already and nobody seems to be offended.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Chris Waymire <chris@REDACTED
>>> <mailto:chris@REDACTED>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     The idea that a software library that happens to share name with a
>>>     racial slur that is over 180 years old and has not been part of
>>>     common social use for several decades would make people angry is
>>>     ridiculous. Especially when the word as meanings that pre-date the
>>>     slur. If that upsets you to the point where you are unable to get
>>>     past it then it is time to unplug your tv, your radio and your
>>>     internet and live a life of peaceful solitude.
>>>
>>>     On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 7:03 AM, Loïc Hoguin <essen@REDACTED
>>>     <mailto:essen@REDACTED>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         This idea that white supremacists need a reason to call others
>>>         using racial slurs is ridiculous at best. At this rate you will
>>>         call me a Nazi by the next reply. Fingers crossed.
>>>
>>>         Again Valery does not apply this term to black people or make
>>>         any reference about them or the US History, so there's no intent
>>>         here. He's using the other meaning.
>>>
>>>         Soon you will argue that hunters are racists because they call
>>>         racoons "coons".
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 02/12/2018 03:53 PM, Josh Barney wrote:
>>>
>>>             Intent IS important and the intent of the people who applied
>>>             this term to black people was a very bad intent.
>>>
>>>             ?People are getting offended much too easily these days? ?
>>>             this argument has been plastered all over American news for
>>>             years, always coming from a privileged group claiming hurt.
>>>             This is the white supremesist position.
>>>
>>>
>>>             On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:34 AM Lo?c Hoguin
>>>             <essen@REDACTED <mailto:essen@REDACTED>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                  This reminds me of people who were calling some coffee
>>>             brand racist not
>>>                  realizing that the Spanish or Portuguese translation
>>>             for "black"
>>>                  looks a
>>>                  lot like a racist slur.
>>>
>>>                  People are getting offended much too easily these days.
>>>             Intent is
>>>                  important and there's no intent to slur here.
>>>
>>>                  On 02/12/2018 03:15 PM, Josh Barney wrote:
>>>                   > One would presume that all the black persons who
>>>             have been called
>>>                  in an
>>>                   > effort to reduce them to rabid animals hunted for
>>>             sport by white men
>>>                   > with dogs would be aware. That?s the import thing
>>>             about racial
>>>                  slurs,
>>>                   > not that you are unhurt, but that someone else is
>>> hurt.
>>>                   >
>>>                   > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:04 AM Lo?c Hoguin
>>>             <essen@REDACTED <mailto:essen@REDACTED>>
>>>                  wrote:
>>>                   >
>>>                   > More importantly, who is aware of them? I doubt too
>>>             many people
>>>                  outside
>>>                   > of North America know about it.
>>>                   >
>>>                   > And secondly, should you censor a word that's
>>>             otherwise perfectly
>>>                  fine
>>>                   > because of its use in slang? It'll get some radical
>>>             activists
>>>                  angry for
>>>                   > sure so it depends on whether you see this as a good
>>>             or a bad thing.
>>>                   > Nowadays that tends to be a good thing.
>>>                   >
>>>                   > Most people will not think twice about it.
>>>                   >
>>>                   > On 02/12/2018 02:17 PM, Fred Hebert wrote:
>>>                   > > Are you aware of the connotations coming with that
>>>             name?
>>>                   > >
>>>                   > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Valery Tikhonov
>>>                   > > <valerii.tikhonov@REDACTED
>>>             <mailto:valerii.tikhonov@REDACTED>
>>>             <mailto:valerii.tikhonov@REDACTED
>>>
>>>             <mailto:valerii.tikhonov@REDACTED>>>
>>>                   > wrote:
>>>                   > >
>>>                   > > Hi,
>>>                   > > I would like to introduce ?oon
>>>                  <https://github.com/comtihon/coon
>>>             <https://github.com/comtihon/coon>> -
>>>                   > > build and dependency management system and tool
>>>             for easy
>>>                  deployment
>>>                   > > Erlang packages.
>>>                   > > In short:
>>>                   > >
>>>                   > > * coon uses prebuilt packages from CoonHub
>>>                   > > <https://coon.justtech.blog>, what reduces build
>>> time
>>>                   > > * thanks to github integration it allows to
>>>             trigger new builds for
>>>                   > > Erlang packages when commiting new tag in repo
>>>                   > > * you can set installation steps to deploy and run
>>>             Erlang service
>>>                   > > from prebuilt package on system without otp/Erlang
>>>             installed
>>>                   > > with `coon install namespace/name`
>>>                   > >
>>>                   > > Documentation, articles and links:
>>>                   > >
>>>                   > > coon (client) - https://github.com/comtihon/coon
>>>             <https://github.com/comtihon/coon>
>>>                   > > <https://github.com/comtihon/coon
>>>             <https://github.com/comtihon/coon>> see Readme.md and doc
>>> folder
>>>                   > >
>>>                   > > coon_auto_builder (server) -
>>>                   > > https://github.com/comtihon/coon_auto_builder
>>>             <https://github.com/comtihon/coon_auto_builder>
>>>                   > > <https://github.com/comtihon/coon_auto_builder
>>>             <https://github.com/comtihon/coon_auto_builder>>
>>>                   > >
>>>                   > > how to create and build Erlang service from scratch
>>>                   > >
>>>             https://justtech.blog/2018/01/07/create-erlang-service-with-
>>> coon/
>>>             <https://justtech.blog/2018/01/07/create-erlang-service-with
>>> -coon/>
>>>                   > >
>>>                             <https://justtech.blog/2018/01
>>> /07/create-erlang-service-with-coon/
>>>             <https://justtech.blog/2018/01/07/create-erlang-service-with
>>> -coon/>>
>>>                   > >
>>>                   > > how to prepare Erlang service for deploy
>>>                   > >
>>>                   >
>>>             https://justtech.blog/2018/02/11/erlang-service-easy-deploy-
>>> with-coon/
>>>             <https://justtech.blog/2018/02/11/erlang-service-easy-deploy
>>> -with-coon/>
>>>                   > >
>>>                   >
>>>                             <https://justtech.blog/2018/02
>>> /11/erlang-service-easy-deploy-with-coon/
>>>             <https://justtech.blog/2018/02/11/erlang-service-easy-deploy
>>> -with-coon/>>
>>>
>>>                   > >
>>>                   > > example service which uses coon
>>>                   > > https://github.com/comtihon/example_service
>>>             <https://github.com/comtihon/example_service>
>>>                   > > <https://github.com/comtihon/example_service
>>>             <https://github.com/comtihon/example_service>>
>>>                   > >
>>>                   > > example library which uses coon
>>>                   > > https://github.com/comtihon/mongodb-erlang
>>>             <https://github.com/comtihon/mongodb-erlang>
>>>                   > > <https://github.com/comtihon/mongodb-erlang
>>>             <https://github.com/comtihon/mongodb-erlang>>
>>>                   > >
>>>                   > > Hope you find this tool useful :)
>>>                   > >
>>>                   > >
>>>                   > >
>>>                   > >
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>>>                   > --
>>>                   > Lo?c Hoguin
>>>                   > https://ninenines.eu
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>>>                  --     Lo?c Hoguin
>>>             https://ninenines.eu
>>>
>>>
>>>         --         Loïc Hoguin
>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> With best regards,
>>>       Roman Galeev,
>>>       +420 702 817 968
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Loïc Hoguin
>> https://ninenines.eu
>>
>
>
>
> --
> With best regards,
>      Roman Galeev,
>      +420 702 817 968 <+420%20702%20817%20968>
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