[erlang-questions] Coon - new tool for building Erlang packages, dependency management and deploying Erlang services

Oliver Korpilla Oliver.Korpilla@REDACTED
Mon Feb 12 16:24:07 CET 2018


Common social use - by more recent generations maybe. People don't go away after one decade.

And that's already gracefully accepting the notion that people don't know the slur anymore. I'm not a native speaker and I'm aware of it being a slur.

It's living knowledge for many people. People now know. This thread with its rather small sample of people already proves this point - unless this is the most unusual sample on the planet? Do you think it is? And even if so, if several Erlang enthusiasts exist that know of it, isn't that the interesting example?

Everything else is just rhetoric smoke and mirrors.

Gesendet: Montag, 12. Februar 2018 um 16:11 Uhr
Von: "Chris Waymire" <chris@REDACTED>
An: "Loïc Hoguin" <essen@REDACTED>
Cc: "Valery Tikhonov" <valerii.tikhonov@REDACTED>, Erlang <erlang-questions@REDACTED>
Betreff: Re: [erlang-questions] Coon - new tool for building Erlang packages, dependency management and deploying Erlang services

The idea that a software library that happens to share name with a racial slur that is over 180 years old and has not been part of common social use for several decades would make people angry is ridiculous. Especially when the word as meanings that pre-date the slur. If that upsets you to the point where you are unable to get past it then it is time to unplug your tv, your radio and your internet and live a life of peaceful solitude.
 
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 7:03 AM, Loïc Hoguin <essen@REDACTED[mailto:essen@REDACTED]> wrote:This idea that white supremacists need a reason to call others using racial slurs is ridiculous at best. At this rate you will call me a Nazi by the next reply. Fingers crossed.

Again Valery does not apply this term to black people or make any reference about them or the US History, so there's no intent here. He's using the other meaning.

Soon you will argue that hunters are racists because they call racoons "coons".

On 02/12/2018 03:53 PM, Josh Barney wrote:Intent IS important and the intent of the people who applied this term to black people was a very bad intent.

?People are getting offended much too easily these days? ? this argument has been plastered all over American news for years, always coming from a privileged group claiming hurt. This is the white supremesist position.


On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:34 AM Lo?c Hoguin <essen@REDACTED[mailto:essen@REDACTED]> wrote:

    This reminds me of people who were calling some coffee brand racist not
    realizing that the Spanish or Portuguese translation for "black"
    looks a
    lot like a racist slur.

    People are getting offended much too easily these days. Intent is
    important and there's no intent to slur here.

    On 02/12/2018 03:15 PM, Josh Barney wrote:
     > One would presume that all the black persons who have been called
    in an
     > effort to reduce them to rabid animals hunted for sport by white men
     > with dogs would be aware. That?s the import thing about racial
    slurs,
     > not that you are unhurt, but that someone else is hurt.
     >
     > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:04 AM Lo?c Hoguin <essen@REDACTED[mailto:essen@REDACTED]>
    wrote:
     >
     > More importantly, who is aware of them? I doubt too many people
    outside
     > of North America know about it.
     >
     > And secondly, should you censor a word that's otherwise perfectly
    fine
     > because of its use in slang? It'll get some radical activists
    angry for
     > sure so it depends on whether you see this as a good or a bad thing.
     > Nowadays that tends to be a good thing.
     >
     > Most people will not think twice about it.
     >
     > On 02/12/2018 02:17 PM, Fred Hebert wrote:
     > > Are you aware of the connotations coming with that name?
     > >
     > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Valery Tikhonov
     > > <valerii.tikhonov@REDACTED[mailto:valerii.tikhonov@REDACTED] <mailto:valerii.tikhonov@REDACTED[mailto:valerii.tikhonov@REDACTED]>>
     > wrote:
     > >
     > > Hi,
     > > I would like to introduce ?oon
    <https://github.com/comtihon/coon[https://github.com/comtihon/coon]> -
     > > build and dependency management system and tool for easy
    deployment
     > > Erlang packages.
     > > In short:
     > >
     > > * coon uses prebuilt packages from CoonHub
     > > <https://coon.justtech.blog[https://coon.justtech.blog]>, what reduces build time
     > > * thanks to github integration it allows to trigger new builds for
     > > Erlang packages when commiting new tag in repo
     > > * you can set installation steps to deploy and run Erlang service
     > > from prebuilt package on system without otp/Erlang installed
     > > with `coon install namespace/name`
     > >
     > > Documentation, articles and links:
     > >
     > > coon (client) - https://github.com/comtihon/coon[https://github.com/comtihon/coon]
     > > <https://github.com/comtihon/coon[https://github.com/comtihon/coon]> see Readme.md and doc folder
     > >
     > > coon_auto_builder (server) -
     > > https://github.com/comtihon/coon_auto_builder[https://github.com/comtihon/coon_auto_builder]
     > > <https://github.com/comtihon/coon_auto_builder[https://github.com/comtihon/coon_auto_builder]>
     > >
     > > how to create and build Erlang service from scratch
     > > https://justtech.blog/2018/01/07/create-erlang-service-with-coon/[https://justtech.blog/2018/01/07/create-erlang-service-with-coon/]
     > >
    <https://justtech.blog/2018/01/07/create-erlang-service-with-coon/[https://justtech.blog/2018/01/07/create-erlang-service-with-coon/]>
     > >
     > > how to prepare Erlang service for deploy
     > >
     >
    https://justtech.blog/2018/02/11/erlang-service-easy-deploy-with-coon/[https://justtech.blog/2018/02/11/erlang-service-easy-deploy-with-coon/]
     > >
     >
    <https://justtech.blog/2018/02/11/erlang-service-easy-deploy-with-coon/[https://justtech.blog/2018/02/11/erlang-service-easy-deploy-with-coon/]>

     > >
     > > example service which uses coon
     > > https://github.com/comtihon/example_service[https://github.com/comtihon/example_service]
     > > <https://github.com/comtihon/example_service[https://github.com/comtihon/example_service]>
     > >
     > > example library which uses coon
     > > https://github.com/comtihon/mongodb-erlang[https://github.com/comtihon/mongodb-erlang]
     > > <https://github.com/comtihon/mongodb-erlang[https://github.com/comtihon/mongodb-erlang]>
     > >
     > > Hope you find this tool useful :)
     > >
     > >
     > >
     > >
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