<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Frankly speaking, I've expected another type of questions, when writing announcement.<br></div>Again - I selected name `coon` because `raccoon` was occupied. That's all.<br><br></div></div>Also I've always beleived that programmers are <span id="gmail-result_box" class="gmail-short_text" lang="en"><span>beyond the politics, sexism and all kind of discriminations. So not using library, that can potentially be useful is a little bit surprising for me.</span></span><br><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_extra">It's a pity, that today I can't fully use language to express what I would like to. But to make everyone happy, I will create a wrapper around coon for those who don't like coon name itself. <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">P.S.: Just think - prohibiting words in the language will finally leave you with empty vocabulary.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-02-12 16:25 GMT+01:00 Roman Galeev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jamhedd@gmail.com" target="_blank">jamhedd@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">> denigrate protected groups<br><br>I'm quite sure you can use any given word for that.<img src="https://mltrk.io/pixel/hp5L59EhHqDT6FZ9geZ7?rid=hp5L59EhHqDT6FZ9geZ7" width="1" height="1" border="0"></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 4:22 PM, Loïc Hoguin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:essen@ninenines.eu" target="_blank">essen@ninenines.eu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">That's the thing about identity politics, it's not all offensive words that are bad, it's only those that can be used to denigrate protected groups (regardless of intent or how old or local the meaning is).<span><br>
<br>
On 02/12/2018 04:18 PM, Roman Galeev wrote:<br>
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>
Well, we have git already and nobody seems to be offended.<br>
<br></span><span>
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Chris Waymire <<a href="mailto:chris@waymire.net" target="_blank">chris@waymire.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:chris@waymire.net" target="_blank">chris@waymire.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
The idea that a software library that happens to share name with a<br>
racial slur that is over 180 years old and has not been part of<br>
common social use for several decades would make people angry is<br>
ridiculous. Especially when the word as meanings that pre-date the<br>
slur. If that upsets you to the point where you are unable to get<br>
past it then it is time to unplug your tv, your radio and your<br>
internet and live a life of peaceful solitude.<br>
<br>
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 7:03 AM, Loïc Hoguin <<a href="mailto:essen@ninenines.eu" target="_blank">essen@ninenines.eu</a><br></span><span>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:essen@ninenines.eu" target="_blank">essen@ninenines.eu</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
This idea that white supremacists need a reason to call others<br>
using racial slurs is ridiculous at best. At this rate you will<br>
call me a Nazi by the next reply. Fingers crossed.<br>
<br>
Again Valery does not apply this term to black people or make<br>
any reference about them or the US History, so there's no intent<br>
here. He's using the other meaning.<br>
<br>
Soon you will argue that hunters are racists because they call<br>
racoons "coons".<br>
<br>
<br>
On 02/12/2018 03:53 PM, Josh Barney wrote:<br>
<br>
Intent IS important and the intent of the people who applied<br>
this term to black people was a very bad intent.<br>
<br>
?People are getting offended much too easily these days? ?<br>
this argument has been plastered all over American news for<br>
years, always coming from a privileged group claiming hurt.<br>
This is the white supremesist position.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:34 AM Lo?c Hoguin<br></span><span>
<<a href="mailto:essen@ninenines.eu" target="_blank">essen@ninenines.eu</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:essen@ninenines.eu" target="_blank">essen@ninenines.eu</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
This reminds me of people who were calling some coffee<br>
brand racist not<br>
realizing that the Spanish or Portuguese translation<br>
for "black"<br>
looks a<br>
lot like a racist slur.<br>
<br>
People are getting offended much too easily these days.<br>
Intent is<br>
important and there's no intent to slur here.<br>
<br>
On 02/12/2018 03:15 PM, Josh Barney wrote:<br>
> One would presume that all the black persons who<br>
have been called<br>
in an<br>
> effort to reduce them to rabid animals hunted for<br>
sport by white men<br>
> with dogs would be aware. That?s the import thing<br>
about racial<br>
slurs,<br>
> not that you are unhurt, but that someone else is hurt.<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:04 AM Lo?c Hoguin<br></span>
<<a href="mailto:essen@ninenines.eu" target="_blank">essen@ninenines.eu</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:essen@ninenines.eu" target="_blank">essen@ninenines.eu</a>>><span><br>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> More importantly, who is aware of them? I doubt too<br>
many people<br>
outside<br>
> of North America know about it.<br>
><br>
> And secondly, should you censor a word that's<br>
otherwise perfectly<br>
fine<br>
> because of its use in slang? It'll get some radical<br>
activists<br>
angry for<br>
> sure so it depends on whether you see this as a good<br>
or a bad thing.<br>
> Nowadays that tends to be a good thing.<br>
><br>
> Most people will not think twice about it.<br>
><br>
> On 02/12/2018 02:17 PM, Fred Hebert wrote:<br>
> > Are you aware of the connotations coming with that<br>
name?<br>
> ><br>
> > On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Valery Tikhonov<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:valerii.tikhonov@gmail.com" target="_blank">valerii.tikhonov@gmail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:valerii.tikhonov@gmail.com" target="_blank">valerii.tikhonov@gmail<wbr>.com</a>><br></span>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:valerii.tikhonov@gmail.com" target="_blank">valerii.tikhonov@gmail<wbr>.com</a><div><div class="m_8740302552663082220h5"><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:valerii.tikhonov@gmail.com" target="_blank">valerii.tikhonov@gmail<wbr>.com</a>>>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Hi,<br>
> > I would like to introduce ?oon<br>
<<a href="https://github.com/comtihon/coon" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/c<wbr>oon</a><br>
<<a href="https://github.com/comtihon/coon" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/c<wbr>oon</a>>> -<br>
> > build and dependency management system and tool<br>
for easy<br>
deployment<br>
> > Erlang packages.<br>
> > In short:<br>
> ><br>
> > * coon uses prebuilt packages from CoonHub<br>
> > <<a href="https://coon.justtech.blog" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://coon.justtech.blog</a>>, what reduces build time<br>
> > * thanks to github integration it allows to<br>
trigger new builds for<br>
> > Erlang packages when commiting new tag in repo<br>
> > * you can set installation steps to deploy and run<br>
Erlang service<br>
> > from prebuilt package on system without otp/Erlang<br>
installed<br>
> > with `coon install namespace/name`<br>
> ><br>
> > Documentation, articles and links:<br>
> ><br>
> > coon (client) - <a href="https://github.com/comtihon/coon" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/co<wbr>on</a><br>
<<a href="https://github.com/comtihon/coon" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/c<wbr>oon</a>><br>
> > <<a href="https://github.com/comtihon/coon" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/c<wbr>oon</a><br>
<<a href="https://github.com/comtihon/coon" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/c<wbr>oon</a>>> see Readme.md and doc folder<br>
> ><br>
> > coon_auto_builder (server) -<br>
> > <a href="https://github.com/comtihon/coon_auto_builder" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/co<wbr>on_auto_builder</a><br>
<<a href="https://github.com/comtihon/coon_auto_builder" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/c<wbr>oon_auto_builder</a>><br>
> > <<a href="https://github.com/comtihon/coon_auto_builder" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/c<wbr>oon_auto_builder</a><br>
<<a href="https://github.com/comtihon/coon_auto_builder" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/c<wbr>oon_auto_builder</a>>><br>
> ><br>
> > how to create and build Erlang service from scratch<br>
> ><br>
<a href="https://justtech.blog/2018/01/07/create-erlang-service-with-coon/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://justtech.blog/2018/01/<wbr>07/create-erlang-service-with-<wbr>coon/</a><br>
<<a href="https://justtech.blog/2018/01/07/create-erlang-service-with-coon/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://justtech.blog/2018/01<wbr>/07/create-erlang-service-with<wbr>-coon/</a>><br>
> ><br>
<<a href="https://justtech.blog/2018/01/07/create-erlang-service-with-coon/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://justtech.blog/2018/01<wbr>/07/create-erlang-service-with<wbr>-coon/</a><br>
<<a href="https://justtech.blog/2018/01/07/create-erlang-service-with-coon/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://justtech.blog/2018/01<wbr>/07/create-erlang-service-with<wbr>-coon/</a>>><br>
> ><br>
> > how to prepare Erlang service for deploy<br>
> ><br>
><br>
<a href="https://justtech.blog/2018/02/11/erlang-service-easy-deploy-with-coon/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://justtech.blog/2018/02/<wbr>11/erlang-service-easy-deploy-<wbr>with-coon/</a><br>
<<a href="https://justtech.blog/2018/02/11/erlang-service-easy-deploy-with-coon/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://justtech.blog/2018/02<wbr>/11/erlang-service-easy-deploy<wbr>-with-coon/</a>><br>
> ><br>
><br>
<<a href="https://justtech.blog/2018/02/11/erlang-service-easy-deploy-with-coon/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://justtech.blog/2018/02<wbr>/11/erlang-service-easy-deploy<wbr>-with-coon/</a><br>
<<a href="https://justtech.blog/2018/02/11/erlang-service-easy-deploy-with-coon/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://justtech.blog/2018/02<wbr>/11/erlang-service-easy-deploy<wbr>-with-coon/</a>>><br>
<br>
> ><br>
> > example service which uses coon<br>
> > <a href="https://github.com/comtihon/example_service" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/ex<wbr>ample_service</a><br>
<<a href="https://github.com/comtihon/example_service" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/e<wbr>xample_service</a>><br>
> > <<a href="https://github.com/comtihon/example_service" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/e<wbr>xample_service</a><br>
<<a href="https://github.com/comtihon/example_service" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/e<wbr>xample_service</a>>><br>
> ><br>
> > example library which uses coon<br>
> > <a href="https://github.com/comtihon/mongodb-erlang" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/mo<wbr>ngodb-erlang</a><br>
<<a href="https://github.com/comtihon/mongodb-erlang" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/m<wbr>ongodb-erlang</a>><br>
> > <<a href="https://github.com/comtihon/mongodb-erlang" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/m<wbr>ongodb-erlang</a><br>
<<a href="https://github.com/comtihon/mongodb-erlang" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/comtihon/m<wbr>ongodb-erlang</a>>><br>
> ><br>
> > Hope you find this tool useful :)<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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