[erlang-questions] ANN: Designing for Scalability with Erlang/OTP by O'Reilly

[Lee Sylvester]

Well that’s the thing.  I’d hazard a guess (and could be wrong) that Francesco’s and Steve’s contract offers them $1 for every printed book sold and 50 cents for every ebook.

Was I close?   ;-)

Lee



On 8 Jul 2014, at 19:39, Raoul Duke <raould@REDACTED> wrote:

> i haven't looked at the books here, but having been somebody who
> produced things and wondered how anybody could ever make a living at
> it, and knowing that writers throughout history rarely made much after
> the publisher etc. got a cut, i didn't have the same reaction to the
> $50 price tag. can't say i'd *spend* the $50 since i'm broke and
> there's a zillion other things to spend $50 on first. i'd try to get
> it via inter library loan or something :-).
> 
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Francesco Cesarini
> <francesco@REDACTED> wrote:
>> Alas, that is how O'Reilly price their books. Having a high price and then
>> discounting is not the approach I would pick. That is why discount codes are
>> being handed out on public mailing lists and social media. I recommend you
>> use them (Read, no one pays full price for an O'Reilly book). As an unedited
>> book, the cost is for the final book which we hope will complement what is
>> already out there. It is a different approach to OTP in action. One I've
>> been using for 15 years when teaching OTP.
>> 
>> /F
>> 
>> On 08/07/2014 19:14, Lee Sylvester wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, $50?  Yeah, that is steep.  If this were some black arts compiler
>>> book or video encoding bible, then that would be something else.  But a book
>>> on Erlang/OTP just doesn’t fall into that bracket…
>>> 
>>> I may wait til it falls in the bargain bucket ;-)
>>> 
>>> Lee
>>> 
>>>  On 8 Jul 2014, at 19:08, Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@REDACTED>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 8 Jul 2014, at 16:05, Francesco Cesarini
>>>> <francesco@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> a shameless plug. Steve Vinoski and I are working on a book focused on
>>>>>> distributed, scalable systems with OTP. It is available from O'Reilly as an
>>>>>> Early Release from their website. The first eight chapters we released cover
>>>>>> (in great detail) all other behaviours. We started writing, and before we
>>>>>> knew it, we had several hundred pages on behaviours alone. Last week, two
>>>>>> new chapters, including the Introduction & Special processes and
>>>>>> Implementing your own behaviours were released. We are now focusing on
>>>>>> release handling (hgg), code upgrade and architectural patterns.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What is available is an unedited draft, with new chapters and
>>>>>> improvements published as they become available. You can find more info
>>>>>> here:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920024149.do?intcmp=il-prog-books-videos-product-intsrch_erlang_ct
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you use discount code authd, you will get 50% off the Early Release,
>>>>>> and 40% on pre-orders of the the printed copy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Looking forward to your feedback,
>>>>>> 
>>>> Not for nothing, but $50 for the undedited work-in-progress seems a bit
>>>> steep (and yes, I saw the discount code).  I also note that "rough cuts"
>>>> aren't included in my Safari subscription.
>>>> 
>>>> Usual practice that I've seen is for works-in-progress to be free, with
>>>> tools that support comments from early readers.
>>>> 
>>>> Sounds interesting - but, from the TOC (all that's available without
>>>> paying), it sure looks like it covers the same ground as "Erlang and OTP in
>>>> Action."
>>>> 
>>>> Miles Fidelman
>>>> 
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