Nobody is unsubscribed

Loïc Hoguin essen@REDACTED
Mon Nov 4 11:53:16 CET 2019

For itself there's two problems currently: no automatic 
redirection from http to https;

And this:

Your connection is not private
This server could not prove that it is; its security 
certificate is from This may be caused by a 
misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection.


Issuer: DigiCert SHA2 Secure Server CA

Expires on: Oct 22, 2021

Current date: Nov 4, 2019

Keep up the good work.

On 04/11/2019 11:34, Raimo Niskanen wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 10:47:03AM +0100, Adam Lindberg wrote:
>> Speaking of servers and domains, when is HTTPS coming to and it’s sub-domains?
> HTTPS has been active for and for years.
> The recent web server upgrade enabled it for as well;
> we are working on it...
> Best regards
> / Raimo
>> Cheers,
>> Adam
>>> On 2. Nov 2019, at 09:14, Raimo Niskanen <ratmapper@REDACTED> wrote:
>>> Yes it does. It applies to all mailing lists.
>>> Ericsson has got its eyes on mailing lists at since it owns the domain.
>>> Best regards
>>> / Raimo Niskanen
>>> Den lör 2 nov. 2019 02:47Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@REDACTED> skrev:
>>> Does this apply to the EEPS list as well?
>>> On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 at 04:25, Joe Harrison <joe@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>> Thanks for doing all of this, regardless.
>>>> There's no perfect way to do mailing lists in a DMARC/DKIM/SPF compliant
>>>> way that doesn't break some client's "From:" field, subject line, or
>>>> "Reply:" button in some way, but this seems like the least bad option.
>>>> I hope my emails make it through to the list now ^_^
>>>> OT: Be careful of organisations' web contact forms which ask for your
>>>> email address. Sometimes their web servers generate an email from the
>>>> form using your email address as the "From:" address, which will break a
>>>> lot of DKIM/DMARC/SPF stuff.
>>>> I know of at least one local authority (council) website in the UK which
>>>> is guilty of this.
>>>> - Joe
>>>> On 26/10/2019 07:57, Raimo Niskanen wrote:
>>>>> It is mainly "the big ones" that have been affected by stricter DMARC
>>>>> policies.
>>>>> When a subscriber sending from e.g Yahoo gets received by Gmail then
>>>>> Gmail rejects that message since Yahoo's DMARC policy says so (also vice
>>>>> versa). So the list gets a bounce and eventually blocks the Gmail
>>>>> subscriber, if enough in a row happens to send with strict DMARC policies.
>>>>> So for some it has worked, some gets an annoying list probe every now
>>>>> and then, some do not get many posts, but the final nail in the coffin
>>>>> was Ericsson (Erlang/OTP's home corporation) that tightened its DMARC
>>>>> policy and at the same time told us to get our act together and stop
>>>>> sending "unhygienic e-mail".
>>>>> All the best
>>>>> / Raimo
>>>>> Den fre 25 okt. 2019 16:58Chris Rempel <csrl@REDACTED
>>>>> <mailto:csrl@REDACTED>> skrev:
>>>>>      Not having the subject contain [erlang-questions] or some other
>>>>>      obvious indicator is quite unfortunate.  I guess many people were
>>>>>      affected by not being DMARC compliant?  It seems to have been
>>>>>      working just fine for quite some time... ie it "works for me" as it was.
>>>>>      That said, thanks for maintaining the list, and keeping it going.
>>>>>      It is a most useful resource.
>>>>>      Chris
>>>>>      *Sent:* Friday, October 25, 2019 at 7:38 AM
>>>>>      *From:* "Raimo Niskanen" <ratmapper@REDACTED
>>>>>      <mailto:ratmapper@REDACTED>>
>>>>>      *To:* erlang-questions@REDACTED <mailto:erlang-questions@REDACTED>
>>>>>      *Subject:* Re: Nobody is unsubscribed
>>>>>      To achieve DMARC compliance we have stopped changing the Subject:
>>>>>      field and no longer add the mailing list footer to the messages.
>>>>>      This is because From: Subject: and mail body among other fields are
>>>>>      often DKIM signed, so if we should change them we would not pass DKIM
>>>>>      signature check and thereby not be DMARC compliant.
>>>>>      Sorry for the inconvenience, we do not make the rules...
>>>>>      / Raimo Niskanen
>>>>>      On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 3:23 PM Raimo Niskanen <ratmapper@REDACTED
>>>>>      <mailto:ratmapper@REDACTED>> wrote:
>>>>>      >
>>>>>      > The reason we changed mailing list servers was to get better DMARC and
>>>>>      > DKIM compliance. This is a test post for us to inspect its headers...
>>>>>      > --
>>>>>      > Raimo Niskanen

Loïc Hoguin

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