Nobody is unsubscribed

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Exactly!

For mailing list web page, I can visit http and https via below links respectively:

http://erlang.org/mailman/listinfo/erlang-questions

https://www2.erlang.org/mailman/listinfo/erlang-questions

Yao

> 在 2019年11月4日，18:53，Loïc Hoguin <essen@REDACTED> 写道：
> 
> For erlang.org itself there's two problems currently: no automatic redirection from http to https;
> 
> And this:
> 
> Your connection is not private
> This server could not prove that it is erlang.org; its security certificate is from www2.erlang.org. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection.
> 
> NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID
> Subject: www2.erlang.org
> 
> Issuer: DigiCert SHA2 Secure Server CA
> 
> Expires on: Oct 22, 2021
> 
> Current date: Nov 4, 2019
> 
> Keep up the good work.
> 
>> On 04/11/2019 11:34, Raimo Niskanen wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 10:47:03AM +0100, Adam Lindberg wrote:
>>> Speaking of servers and domains, when is HTTPS coming to erlang.org and it’s sub-domains?
>> HTTPS has been active for www.erlang.org and bugs.erlang.org for years.
>> The recent web server upgrade enabled it for erlang.org as well;
>> we are working on it...
>> Best regards
>> / Raimo
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>>> On 2. Nov 2019, at 09:14, Raimo Niskanen <ratmapper@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes it does. It applies to all mailing lists.
>>>> 
>>>> Ericsson has got its eyes on mailing lists at erlang.org since it owns the domain.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards
>>>> / Raimo Niskanen
>>>> 
>>>> Den lör 2 nov. 2019 02:47Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@REDACTED> skrev:
>>>> Does this apply to the EEPS list as well?
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 at 04:25, Joe Harrison <joe@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for doing all of this, regardless.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There's no perfect way to do mailing lists in a DMARC/DKIM/SPF compliant
>>>>> way that doesn't break some client's "From:" field, subject line, or
>>>>> "Reply:" button in some way, but this seems like the least bad option.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope my emails make it through to the list now ^_^
>>>>> 
>>>>> OT: Be careful of organisations' web contact forms which ask for your
>>>>> email address. Sometimes their web servers generate an email from the
>>>>> form using your email address as the "From:" address, which will break a
>>>>> lot of DKIM/DMARC/SPF stuff.
>>>>> I know of at least one local authority (council) website in the UK which
>>>>> is guilty of this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Joe
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 26/10/2019 07:57, Raimo Niskanen wrote:
>>>>>> It is mainly "the big ones" that have been affected by stricter DMARC
>>>>>> policies.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When a subscriber sending from e.g Yahoo gets received by Gmail then
>>>>>> Gmail rejects that message since Yahoo's DMARC policy says so (also vice
>>>>>> versa). So the list gets a bounce and eventually blocks the Gmail
>>>>>> subscriber, if enough in a row happens to send with strict DMARC policies.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So for some it has worked, some gets an annoying list probe every now
>>>>>> and then, some do not get many posts, but the final nail in the coffin
>>>>>> was Ericsson (Erlang/OTP's home corporation) that tightened its DMARC
>>>>>> policy and at the same time told us to get our act together and stop
>>>>>> sending "unhygienic e-mail".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>> / Raimo
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Den fre 25 okt. 2019 16:58Chris Rempel <csrl@REDACTED
>>>>>> <mailto:csrl@REDACTED>> skrev:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     Not having the subject contain [erlang-questions] or some other
>>>>>>     obvious indicator is quite unfortunate.  I guess many people were
>>>>>>     affected by not being DMARC compliant?  It seems to have been
>>>>>>     working just fine for quite some time... ie it "works for me" as it was.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     That said, thanks for maintaining the list, and keeping it going.
>>>>>>     It is a most useful resource.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     Chris
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     *Sent:* Friday, October 25, 2019 at 7:38 AM
>>>>>>     *From:* "Raimo Niskanen" <ratmapper@REDACTED
>>>>>>     <mailto:ratmapper@REDACTED>>
>>>>>>     *To:* erlang-questions@REDACTED <mailto:erlang-questions@REDACTED>
>>>>>>     *Subject:* Re: Nobody is unsubscribed
>>>>>>     To achieve DMARC compliance we have stopped changing the Subject:
>>>>>>     field and no longer add the mailing list footer to the messages.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     This is because From: Subject: and mail body among other fields are
>>>>>>     often DKIM signed, so if we should change them we would not pass DKIM
>>>>>>     signature check and thereby not be DMARC compliant.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     Sorry for the inconvenience, we do not make the rules...
>>>>>>     / Raimo Niskanen
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 3:23 PM Raimo Niskanen <ratmapper@REDACTED
>>>>>>     <mailto:ratmapper@REDACTED>> wrote:
>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     > The reason we changed mailing list servers was to get better DMARC and
>>>>>>     > DKIM compliance. This is a test post for us to inspect its headers...
>>>>>>     > --
>>>>>>     > Raimo Niskanen
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
> 
> -- 
> Loïc Hoguin
> https://ninenines.eu
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