Nobody is unsubscribed

[Raimo Niskanen]

Yes it does. It applies to all mailing lists.

Ericsson has got its eyes on mailing lists at erlang.org since it owns the
domain.

Best regards
/ Raimo Niskanen

Den lör 2 nov. 2019 02:47Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@REDACTED> skrev:

> Does this apply to the EEPS list as well?
>
> On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 at 04:25, Joe Harrison <joe@REDACTED> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for doing all of this, regardless.
> >
> > There's no perfect way to do mailing lists in a DMARC/DKIM/SPF compliant
> > way that doesn't break some client's "From:" field, subject line, or
> > "Reply:" button in some way, but this seems like the least bad option.
> >
> > I hope my emails make it through to the list now ^_^
> >
> > OT: Be careful of organisations' web contact forms which ask for your
> > email address. Sometimes their web servers generate an email from the
> > form using your email address as the "From:" address, which will break a
> > lot of DKIM/DMARC/SPF stuff.
> > I know of at least one local authority (council) website in the UK which
> > is guilty of this.
> >
> > - Joe
> >
> > On 26/10/2019 07:57, Raimo Niskanen wrote:
> > > It is mainly "the big ones" that have been affected by stricter DMARC
> > > policies.
> > >
> > > When a subscriber sending from e.g Yahoo gets received by Gmail then
> > > Gmail rejects that message since Yahoo's DMARC policy says so (also
> vice
> > > versa). So the list gets a bounce and eventually blocks the Gmail
> > > subscriber, if enough in a row happens to send with strict DMARC
> policies.
> > >
> > > So for some it has worked, some gets an annoying list probe every now
> > > and then, some do not get many posts, but the final nail in the coffin
> > > was Ericsson (Erlang/OTP's home corporation) that tightened its DMARC
> > > policy and at the same time told us to get our act together and stop
> > > sending "unhygienic e-mail".
> > >
> > > All the best
> > > / Raimo
> > >
> > >
> > > Den fre 25 okt. 2019 16:58Chris Rempel <csrl@REDACTED
> > > <mailto:csrl@REDACTED>> skrev:
> > >
> > >     Not having the subject contain [erlang-questions] or some other
> > >     obvious indicator is quite unfortunate.  I guess many people were
> > >     affected by not being DMARC compliant?  It seems to have been
> > >     working just fine for quite some time... ie it "works for me" as
> it was.
> > >
> > >     That said, thanks for maintaining the list, and keeping it going.
> > >     It is a most useful resource.
> > >
> > >     Chris
> > >
> > >     *Sent:* Friday, October 25, 2019 at 7:38 AM
> > >     *From:* "Raimo Niskanen" <ratmapper@REDACTED
> > >     <mailto:ratmapper@REDACTED>>
> > >     *To:* erlang-questions@REDACTED <mailto:
> erlang-questions@REDACTED>
> > >     *Subject:* Re: Nobody is unsubscribed
> > >     To achieve DMARC compliance we have stopped changing the Subject:
> > >     field and no longer add the mailing list footer to the messages.
> > >
> > >     This is because From: Subject: and mail body among other fields are
> > >     often DKIM signed, so if we should change them we would not pass
> DKIM
> > >     signature check and thereby not be DMARC compliant.
> > >
> > >     Sorry for the inconvenience, we do not make the rules...
> > >     / Raimo Niskanen
> > >
> > >     On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 3:23 PM Raimo Niskanen <
> ratmapper@REDACTED
> > >     <mailto:ratmapper@REDACTED>> wrote:
> > >     >
> > >     > The reason we changed mailing list servers was to get better
> DMARC and
> > >     > DKIM compliance. This is a test post for us to inspect its
> headers...
> > >     > --
> > >     > Raimo Niskanen
> > >
> >
>
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