Nobody is unsubscribed

[Richard O'Keefe]

Does this apply to the EEPS list as well?

On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 at 04:25, Joe Harrison <joe@REDACTED> wrote:
>
> Thanks for doing all of this, regardless.
>
> There's no perfect way to do mailing lists in a DMARC/DKIM/SPF compliant
> way that doesn't break some client's "From:" field, subject line, or
> "Reply:" button in some way, but this seems like the least bad option.
>
> I hope my emails make it through to the list now ^_^
>
> OT: Be careful of organisations' web contact forms which ask for your
> email address. Sometimes their web servers generate an email from the
> form using your email address as the "From:" address, which will break a
> lot of DKIM/DMARC/SPF stuff.
> I know of at least one local authority (council) website in the UK which
> is guilty of this.
>
> - Joe
>
> On 26/10/2019 07:57, Raimo Niskanen wrote:
> > It is mainly "the big ones" that have been affected by stricter DMARC
> > policies.
> >
> > When a subscriber sending from e.g Yahoo gets received by Gmail then
> > Gmail rejects that message since Yahoo's DMARC policy says so (also vice
> > versa). So the list gets a bounce and eventually blocks the Gmail
> > subscriber, if enough in a row happens to send with strict DMARC policies.
> >
> > So for some it has worked, some gets an annoying list probe every now
> > and then, some do not get many posts, but the final nail in the coffin
> > was Ericsson (Erlang/OTP's home corporation) that tightened its DMARC
> > policy and at the same time told us to get our act together and stop
> > sending "unhygienic e-mail".
> >
> > All the best
> > / Raimo
> >
> >
> > Den fre 25 okt. 2019 16:58Chris Rempel <csrl@REDACTED
> > <mailto:csrl@REDACTED>> skrev:
> >
> >     Not having the subject contain [erlang-questions] or some other
> >     obvious indicator is quite unfortunate.  I guess many people were
> >     affected by not being DMARC compliant?  It seems to have been
> >     working just fine for quite some time... ie it "works for me" as it was.
> >
> >     That said, thanks for maintaining the list, and keeping it going.
> >     It is a most useful resource.
> >
> >     Chris
> >
> >     *Sent:* Friday, October 25, 2019 at 7:38 AM
> >     *From:* "Raimo Niskanen" <ratmapper@REDACTED
> >     <mailto:ratmapper@REDACTED>>
> >     *To:* erlang-questions@REDACTED <mailto:erlang-questions@REDACTED>
> >     *Subject:* Re: Nobody is unsubscribed
> >     To achieve DMARC compliance we have stopped changing the Subject:
> >     field and no longer add the mailing list footer to the messages.
> >
> >     This is because From: Subject: and mail body among other fields are
> >     often DKIM signed, so if we should change them we would not pass DKIM
> >     signature check and thereby not be DMARC compliant.
> >
> >     Sorry for the inconvenience, we do not make the rules...
> >     / Raimo Niskanen
> >
> >     On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 3:23 PM Raimo Niskanen <ratmapper@REDACTED
> >     <mailto:ratmapper@REDACTED>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     > The reason we changed mailing list servers was to get better DMARC and
> >     > DKIM compliance. This is a test post for us to inspect its headers...
> >     > --
> >     > Raimo Niskanen
> >
>