<div dir="auto"><div>Yes it does. It applies to all mailing lists.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Ericsson has got its eyes on mailing lists at <a href="http://erlang.org">erlang.org</a> since it owns the domain.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best regards</div><div dir="auto">/ Raimo Niskanen <br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Den lör 2 nov. 2019 02:47Richard O'Keefe <<a href="mailto:raoknz@gmail.com">raoknz@gmail.com</a>> skrev:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Does this apply to the EEPS list as well?<br>
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On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 at 04:25, Joe Harrison <<a href="mailto:joe@sigwinch.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">joe@sigwinch.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Thanks for doing all of this, regardless.<br>
><br>
> There's no perfect way to do mailing lists in a DMARC/DKIM/SPF compliant<br>
> way that doesn't break some client's "From:" field, subject line, or<br>
> "Reply:" button in some way, but this seems like the least bad option.<br>
><br>
> I hope my emails make it through to the list now ^_^<br>
><br>
> OT: Be careful of organisations' web contact forms which ask for your<br>
> email address. Sometimes their web servers generate an email from the<br>
> form using your email address as the "From:" address, which will break a<br>
> lot of DKIM/DMARC/SPF stuff.<br>
> I know of at least one local authority (council) website in the UK which<br>
> is guilty of this.<br>
><br>
> - Joe<br>
><br>
> On 26/10/2019 07:57, Raimo Niskanen wrote:<br>
> > It is mainly "the big ones" that have been affected by stricter DMARC<br>
> > policies.<br>
> ><br>
> > When a subscriber sending from e.g Yahoo gets received by Gmail then<br>
> > Gmail rejects that message since Yahoo's DMARC policy says so (also vice<br>
> > versa). So the list gets a bounce and eventually blocks the Gmail<br>
> > subscriber, if enough in a row happens to send with strict DMARC policies.<br>
> ><br>
> > So for some it has worked, some gets an annoying list probe every now<br>
> > and then, some do not get many posts, but the final nail in the coffin<br>
> > was Ericsson (Erlang/OTP's home corporation) that tightened its DMARC<br>
> > policy and at the same time told us to get our act together and stop<br>
> > sending "unhygienic e-mail".<br>
> ><br>
> > All the best<br>
> > / Raimo<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Den fre 25 okt. 2019 16:58Chris Rempel <<a href="mailto:csrl@gmx.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">csrl@gmx.com</a><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:csrl@gmx.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">csrl@gmx.com</a>>> skrev:<br>
> ><br>
> > Not having the subject contain [erlang-questions] or some other<br>
> > obvious indicator is quite unfortunate. I guess many people were<br>
> > affected by not being DMARC compliant? It seems to have been<br>
> > working just fine for quite some time... ie it "works for me" as it was.<br>
> ><br>
> > That said, thanks for maintaining the list, and keeping it going.<br>
> > It is a most useful resource.<br>
> ><br>
> > Chris<br>
> ><br>
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 25, 2019 at 7:38 AM<br>
> > *From:* "Raimo Niskanen" <<a href="mailto:ratmapper@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ratmapper@gmail.com</a><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:ratmapper@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ratmapper@gmail.com</a>>><br>
> > *To:* <a href="mailto:erlang-questions@erlang.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">erlang-questions@erlang.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:erlang-questions@erlang.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">erlang-questions@erlang.org</a>><br>
> > *Subject:* Re: Nobody is unsubscribed<br>
> > To achieve DMARC compliance we have stopped changing the Subject:<br>
> > field and no longer add the mailing list footer to the messages.<br>
> ><br>
> > This is because From: Subject: and mail body among other fields are<br>
> > often DKIM signed, so if we should change them we would not pass DKIM<br>
> > signature check and thereby not be DMARC compliant.<br>
> ><br>
> > Sorry for the inconvenience, we do not make the rules...<br>
> > / Raimo Niskanen<br>
> ><br>
> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 3:23 PM Raimo Niskanen <<a href="mailto:ratmapper@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ratmapper@gmail.com</a><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:ratmapper@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ratmapper@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > The reason we changed mailing list servers was to get better DMARC and<br>
> > > DKIM compliance. This is a test post for us to inspect its headers...<br>
> > > --<br>
> > > Raimo Niskanen<br>
> ><br>
><br>
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