[erlang-questions] idea: service pack one

[Yariv Sadan]

I agree with Roberto. Unless your UI needs to display
audio/video/vector graphics/animation, you should avoid
Flash/Flex/OpenLazlo and use plain old HTML + Javascript. HTML content
is searchable, browsers are ubiquitous, and practically everyone knows
HTML whereas relatively few programmers know Flash (which is also
proprietary, btw).

My (not-so-shocking) take is that, if your Erlang app needs a UI and
you don't need front-end features that are can't be implemented in
HTML/JS, you're better off using ErlyWeb :)

Yariv

On Nov 13, 2007 3:54 PM, Roberto Saccon <rsaccon@REDACTED> wrote:
> I really don't understand why you want flash for the GUI, unless it is
> a pure AIR project or a specialized video / audio application. But if
> it is in the browser, then I see only disadvantages:
>
> - flash is not part of the browser DOM
> - Flash is a usability and accessibility nightmare
> - flash requires Designer comfortable with the proprietary Adobe
> tools, if you want to customize the look and feel
> - Flex is like Java: because of its complexity you need specialized
> tools  (Flex SDK, is eclipse + plugin, goodbye emacs) to handle it
>
> and I agree with Bob, if flash, and if as open source as possible,
> than haXe (it is also more performant than AS3 since yesterday, if you
> follow the haXe blog)
>
>
> On Nov 13, 2007 9:36 PM, Bob Ippolito <bob@REDACTED> wrote:
> > On 11/13/07, Yerl <yerl@REDACTED> wrote:
> > > Hi !
> > >
> > > >       repeat after me: client = flash in the browser, server = erlang.
> > > > Intermediate protocol = flash AMF
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Cool slogan, but I prefer this one :
> > > Repeat after me : client = flash in the browser with OpenLaszlo*, server
> > > = erlang
> > > Intermediate protocol = UBF**
> > >
> > > * http://www.openlaszlo.org/
> > > ** http://www.sics.se/~joe/ubf/site/home.html
> >
> > That's a nice dream, but OpenLaszlo doesn't support AS3 (SWF 9) so it
> > can't talk arbitrary TCP (UBF) and it doesn't have the same speed or
> > capabilities as you'd get from the Flex 2 SDK. If you were adamant
> > about going with something non-Adobe I'd think more about haXe than
> > OpenLaszlo.
> >
> > I don't really see the point in talking UBF when AMF is going to be
> > more efficient for the client to deal with, and the code would be more
> > generally useful since it's a (de facto) standard.
> >
> > -bob
> >
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