Erlang for web-developers

Dmitrii Dimandt dmitriid@REDACTED
Wed Aug 30 08:24:49 CEST 2006


:)) I've already triple-wow'ed in your blog :)) I guess, more wow's are on
the way :))

On 8/29/06, Yariv Sadan <yarivvv@REDACTED> wrote:
>
> In a couple of months your opinion will be drastically different ;)
>
> Yariv
>
> On 8/29/06, Dmitrii Dimandt <dmitriid@REDACTED> wrote:
> > Well, to add this to the mix:
> >
> > Erlang is actually not suited very well for anything, but, well, telecom
> > applications :)
> >
> > Despite Yaws, it cannot be used as a web-development tool right out of
> the
> > box (Unicode, indexed search anyone)
> > Despite C- and Java- bindings, Erlang cannot be used for desktop
> > applications, because, well, you'll have to implement _a lot_ of stuff
> from
> > ground up in Java or C/C++ just to make things communicate with Erlang
> >
> >  As a control box? Yes, definitely. As a ready-togo solution? Probably,
> not.
> >
> > And there are both advantages and disadvantages to that, as there always
> > are, but I think, that if Erlang community could focus on the
> > disadvantages... Man, this could be the next killer-language :) (Ruby is
> > slowly filling the void, and C# 3.0 is around the corner, and there is
> that
> > curious little fellow by the name of Nemerle...)
> >
> >
> > On 8/29/06, Thomas Lindgren < thomasl_erlang@REDACTED> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Andrés Valenciano < andres-lists@REDACTED>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > ke han wrote:
> > > > > This does add to the erlang sales pitch problem.
> > > >
> > > > Yes it is a problem, some times when others have
> > > > used only one tool for
> > > > everything for years and before that another tool
> > > > for everything...they
> > > > are difficult people to talk to or persuade to
> > > > change from their comfort
> > > > zone about development.
> > > >
> > > > Most of the things I heard were the same that were
> > > > thrown to the Rails
> > > > guys: pool of people to work with the "technology",
> > > > "enterprise
> > > > standard" for web apps, blah blah blah (well, not
> > > > one thing about
> > > > scalability in this case :) )
> > >
> > > Most developers and managers play "follow the leader"
> > > and get upset if there are several ones :-) But those
> > > guys are basically the prize of the winner, and there
> > > is little point in trying to convince them at this
> > > stage.
> > >
> > > Instead, I think what is needed is a community of
> > > technical pioneers, who overcome real problems and
> > > codify them into software solutions. This is
> > > attractive to people who are having problems and are
> > > willing to try something new. In this specific case,
> > > an "OTP for web developers", perhaps?
> > >
> > > Basically, these pioneers will be the core of the
> > > snowball at the top of the hill, and the followers
> > > will be the big outer layer at the bottom.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Thomas
> > >
> > >
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