:)) I've already triple-wow'ed in your blog :)) I guess, more wow's are on the way :))<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/29/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Yariv Sadan</b> <<a href="mailto:yarivvv@gmail.com">yarivvv@gmail.com
</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">In a couple of months your opinion will be drastically different ;)<br>
<br>Yariv<br><br>On 8/29/06, Dmitrii Dimandt <<a href="mailto:dmitriid@gmail.com">dmitriid@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Well, to add this to the mix:<br>><br>> Erlang is actually not suited very well for anything, but, well, telecom
<br>> applications :)<br>><br>> Despite Yaws, it cannot be used as a web-development tool right out of the<br>> box (Unicode, indexed search anyone)<br>> Despite C- and Java- bindings, Erlang cannot be used for desktop
<br>> applications, because, well, you'll have to implement _a lot_ of stuff from<br>> ground up in Java or C/C++ just to make things communicate with Erlang<br>><br>> As a control box? Yes, definitely. As a ready-togo solution? Probably, not.
<br>><br>> And there are both advantages and disadvantages to that, as there always<br>> are, but I think, that if Erlang community could focus on the<br>> disadvantages... Man, this could be the next killer-language :) (Ruby is
<br>> slowly filling the void, and C# 3.0 is around the corner, and there is that<br>> curious little fellow by the name of Nemerle...)<br>><br>><br>> On 8/29/06, Thomas Lindgren < <a href="mailto:thomasl_erlang@yahoo.com">
thomasl_erlang@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > --- Andrés Valenciano < <a href="mailto:andres-lists@brainplugins.com">andres-lists@brainplugins.com</a>><br>> > wrote:<br>> >
<br>> > > ke han wrote:<br>> > > > This does add to the erlang sales pitch problem.<br>> > ><br>> > > Yes it is a problem, some times when others have<br>> > > used only one tool for
<br>> > > everything for years and before that another tool<br>> > > for everything...they<br>> > > are difficult people to talk to or persuade to<br>> > > change from their comfort<br>
> > > zone about development.<br>> > ><br>> > > Most of the things I heard were the same that were<br>> > > thrown to the Rails<br>> > > guys: pool of people to work with the "technology",
<br>> > > "enterprise<br>> > > standard" for web apps, blah blah blah (well, not<br>> > > one thing about<br>> > > scalability in this case :) )<br>> ><br>> > Most developers and managers play "follow the leader"
<br>> > and get upset if there are several ones :-) But those<br>> > guys are basically the prize of the winner, and there<br>> > is little point in trying to convince them at this<br>> > stage.<br>
> ><br>> > Instead, I think what is needed is a community of<br>> > technical pioneers, who overcome real problems and<br>> > codify them into software solutions. This is<br>> > attractive to people who are having problems and are
<br>> > willing to try something new. In this specific case,<br>> > an "OTP for web developers", perhaps?<br>> ><br>> > Basically, these pioneers will be the core of the<br>> > snowball at the top of the hill, and the followers
<br>> > will be the big outer layer at the bottom.<br>> ><br>> > Best,<br>> > Thomas<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > __________________________________________________<br>> > Do You Yahoo!?
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