[erlang-questions] separators before end

Minsloc Tarren <>
Thu Sep 20 01:44:41 CEST 2007


On 9/20/07, Dustin Sallings <> wrote:
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2007, at 15:36 , Minsloc Tarren wrote:
>
> *1) i really liked ruby in that matter, and i would never use python
> because only idiot - sorry, Guido - would use whitespace in other way than
> as word-separator. I'm willing to accept any sensible community standard for
> indentation, but this is whitespace fascism ;-).
>
> if you wanna have some fun :
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2003-January/183048.html <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2003-January/183048.html>(third
> thing on goole under python tab), and exactly why i never tried python - not
> even when they started hyping about django.
>
>
> Please don't take someone's annoyance with an aspect of this language to
> start a flamewar about another.
>

didn't meant to start a flamewar. sorry if it felt like this. and yeah, it
depends on what you wanna call flaming (ie. you don't require malicious
intention as an ingredient of flame).

In this case, people who use erlang a lot aren't terribly bothered by
> treating ; and , as separators.  The question is whether it's a barrier to
> entry, and how big of a barrier it is.
>

depends on the individual as with everything. for me, reading that it is
separator was enough, as separator logically separates two things.

In python's case, the only people who complain about whitespace are people
> who haven't used it (although they usually don't go as far as to call the
> creator an idiot on a completely unrelated list).
>

it's a matter of taste.  and sorry, maybe i'm not weighting words, but if i
find some decision idiotic, i'm not afraid/ashamed to say so.
on the matter as when and where i said it: i would feel like an idiot and
troll venting it on python list, because they are quite happy with python as
it is. for me on the other side, it's language that has nothing the
mainstream wouldn't have with an ugly syntax on top.

i mentioned it here only because i mentioned ruby, whose elegance (both in
way of syntax, and how objects are incorporated in language) contrasts with
pythons ugliness.

next time, just keep in mind that not everybody tries to flame when he uses
stronger language, that some of us are aware of the fact that everything we
say have implied imho in front of it (how exactly do you think i call people
who don't get this ?), because we accept the fact that we see the world only
through our own eyes/logic. and that we are simply sharing our opinion for
the sake of discussion, not enforcing it on anybody, or putting it forth as
an Universal Truth.

-- 
> Dustin Sallings
>


Minsloc

ps: political correctness is just just piece of cloth people stuff in their
mouths so they don't have to change the way the think.
pps: i know this probably looks like flaming to you again, but just try too
believe i'm being honest. otherwise we'll have to ignore each other.
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