<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/20/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Dustin Sallings</b> <<a href="mailto:dustin@spy.net">dustin@spy.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<br><div><div>On Sep 19, 2007, at 15:36 , Minsloc Tarren wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">
*1) i really liked ruby in that matter, and i would never use python because only idiot - sorry, Guido - would use whitespace in other way than as word-separator. I'm willing to accept any sensible community standard for indentation, but this is whitespace fascism ;-).
<span> </span><br><br>if you wanna have some fun :<span> </span><a href="http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2003-January/183048.html" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2003-January/183048.html
<span> </span></a>(third thing on goole under python tab), and exactly why i never tried python - not even when they started hyping about django.</span></blockquote></div><div><br></div></span><div><span style="white-space: pre;">
</span>Please don't take someone's annoyance with an aspect of this language to start a flamewar about another.</div></div></blockquote><div><br>didn't meant to start a flamewar. sorry if it felt like this. and yeah, it depends on what you wanna call flaming (ie. you don't require malicious intention as an ingredient of flame).
<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=""><div>In this case, people who use erlang a lot aren't terribly bothered by treating ; and , as separators. The question is whether it's a barrier to entry, and how big of a barrier it is.
</div></div></blockquote><div><br>depends on the individual as with everything. for me, reading that it is separator was enough, as separator logically separates two things. </div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style=""><div>In python's case, the only people who complain about whitespace are people who haven't used it (although they usually don't go as far as to call the creator an idiot on a completely unrelated list).
</div></div></blockquote><div><br>it's a matter of taste. and sorry, maybe i'm not weighting words, but if i find some decision idiotic, i'm not afraid/ashamed to say so.<br>on the matter as when and where i said it: i would feel like an idiot and troll venting it on python list, because they are quite happy with python as it is. for me on the other side, it's language that has nothing the mainstream wouldn't have with an ugly syntax on top.
<br><br>i mentioned it here only because i mentioned ruby, whose elegance (both in way of syntax, and how objects are incorporated in language) contrasts with pythons ugliness.<br><br>next time, just keep in mind that not everybody tries to flame when he uses stronger language, that some of us are aware of the fact that everything we say have implied imho in front of it (how exactly do you think i call people who don't get this ?), because we accept the fact that we see the world only through our own eyes/logic. and that we are simply sharing our opinion for the sake of discussion, not enforcing it on anybody, or putting it forth as an Universal Truth.
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<div>-- </div><div>Dustin Sallings</div></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br><br>Minsloc <br></div><br><div>ps: political correctness is just just piece of cloth people stuff in their mouths so they don't have to change the way the think.
<br>pps: i know this probably looks like flaming to you again, but just try too believe i'm being honest. otherwise we'll have to ignore each other.<br></div></div>