Wed Feb 22 08:45:00 CET 2006
Douglas Philips <>On 2006-02-20 16:31, Douglas Philips wrote:
> to be done re: user-installable packaging vs. system administrator
> installable packaging. As far as I know, this is still in the realm of
> mostly unexplored territory. Many interpreted languages (perl, python,
> lisp) have had this problem to solve. Perl and Python (and TeX, which is
> not typically lumped in) have solved this quite successfully with a
> Comprehensive <something> Archive Network (CPAN, CTAN, etc.). On the
> Mac, applications have (for the most part) moved away from installing
> themselves into the system and needing priveleges, with preferences,
> settings, etc. living under the home directory of the user(s) running them.
it has been described to me that one benefit of perl is cpan. afaik this
is not a ''gnutools required'' system. i think erlang would ''look
better'' if there was a cean system. i know i would like to build
something like it :-)
> Perhaps Firefox would be a more acceptable (than CPAN, etc.) example,
> wherein from within which I can install extensions, etc. etc. etc.
> Perhaps a distinction between the base erlang system (which might need
> an administrator to install) and user-add ons.
i agree that there is a distinction between the base erlang system and
add ons. somewhere there is a kernel with c code, snd that is definitly
> Or perhaps we're just confusing two very different deployment scenarios?
> Back-room server rack unattended systems vs. user-interactive intensive
> 'desktop' applications?
i think that it is possible to have a much more difficult installation
procedure if the installer is a sysadm. i also think that even a sysadm
could handle a simple installation :-)
the think to remember is that a simple installation must allow for
choice. even a ''end user'' will at times want to install in the right
place, as opposed to where the developper/packager expected the end user
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