[erlang-questions] Coon - new tool for building Erlang packages, dependency management and deploying Erlang services

Stefan Strigler stefan.strigler@REDACTED
Tue Feb 13 01:43:00 CET 2018


Yeah, fuck you!

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:42 AM Sashan Govender <sashang@REDACTED> wrote:

> I think you just need to tolerate different cultures better. A word that
> is deemed racist in one culture isn't the same in another.
>
> There are many other uses for coon.
> Maine Coon is a type of cat.
> Coon is type of cheese in Australia. Go on - tell all of Australia to stop
> eating coon.
>
> Next you'll be telling me to rethink the use of the work 'monkey' or
> 'gorrilla' for a library. Where does it end?
>
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 3:52 AM Chris Duesing <chris.duesing@REDACTED>
> wrote:
>
>> I can't believe this "discussion" is happening. Coon is a racial slur,
>> there is no other use of the word. The fact that a bunch of white Europeans
>> are pointing out that the dozen people involved in this thread aren't
>> offended simply shows the lack of diversity in the mailing list. The "oh
>> I'm butthurt because other people get offended by things" is fucking
>> ridiculous. It is a racial slur, period. If this isn't a library only
>> intended to be used by racist fucks then rename it.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:28 AM, nx <nx@REDACTED> wrote:
>>
>>> For what it's worth, the first thing I thought of when I saw the title
>>> of this thread was "that is a racist slur". I've also never heard anyone
>>> call a raccoon a coon.
>>>
>>> The news that cowboy was named for "cowboys kill apaches" is
>>> disappointing.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:22 AM Fred Hebert <mononcqc@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What I'm saying is that it does not matter how I interpret things. I
>>>> asked and the author said publicly it was a raccoon. I'm okay with that
>>>> explanation and I'm ready to believe it.
>>>>
>>>> My point is that other people won't ask the author, won't know who he
>>>> is, and will pick an interpretation and stick with it. They won't need the
>>>> context, they won't need anything. They'll just do it. The name can be
>>>> interpreted in a racist way, and so it's pretty much guaranteed that it
>>>> will be eventually interpreted that way. The author is free to go ahead and
>>>> keep the name, and the users and onlookers will be free to read whatever
>>>> they want in that name.
>>>>
>>>> That is 100% my point.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Krzysztof Jurewicz <
>>>> krzysztof.jurewicz@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Fred Hebert writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Anyone is of course free to name their software whatever they want.
>>>>> Picking
>>>>> > a racist name is however never going to be consequences-free as this
>>>>> e-mail
>>>>> > thread first shows on the first day of release, and adoption figures
>>>>> may
>>>>> > also reflect it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Merriam-Webster online dictionary (naming itself as “America’s
>>>>> most-trusted online dictionary”) says that there two meanings of “coon”:
>>>>>
>>>>> ⒈ raccoon;
>>>>> ⒉ offensive — used as an insulting and contemptuous term for a black
>>>>> person.
>>>>>
>>>>> I presume that context matters. What makes you think that in this
>>>>> context this word means ⒉? Wikipedia in the article about raccoon says that
>>>>> is also known coloquially as “coon”, so I guess this is not a very uncommon
>>>>> usage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or are you saying that non-racist usages of words that have also
>>>>> racist meanings should be eventually abandoned?
>>>>>
>>>>> (I’m not a native speaker, so bear with my eventual ignorance).
>>>>>
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