[erlang-questions] GUI development with Erlang

[Joe Armstrong]

How big are the applications built with Electron?

/Joe



On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Zachary Kessin <zkessin@REDACTED> wrote:

> I was thinking of something like Electron https://electronjs.org/ with an
> Erlang backend.
>
> Mind I have no idea how to actually build that
>
> Zach
> ᐧ
>
> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Joe Armstrong <erlang@REDACTED> wrote:
>
>> If you want something that just works and is reasonably simple to
>> implement
>> Browser based GUI's are pretty good.
>>
>> The combination of web sockets + SVG/Canavas/DOM manipulation in JS
>> is pretty easy to setup and loads of people understand JS/Browser things.
>>
>> Stand-alone outside the browser is tricky.
>>
>> TCL/Tk is really easy to get going and interface (yes it's old but works
>> well)
>>
>> Java Swing is what it is - and if you're good at Java might be an
>> alternative
>> but you'd have to interface it to Erlang.
>>
>> QT is brilliant but you'd need to write the GUI in C++ and interface it
>> to Erlang
>>
>> WxWidgets is actually pretty good but has a steep learning curve (a
>> cliff) -
>> I did actually manage to build some interfaces with it and concluded that
>> it was pretty good but that it needed a *lot* of examples and getting
>> started
>> tutorials.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> /Joe
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Alan Gingras <alangingras@REDACTED>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the suggestion.  I've been trying to keep the work totally in
>>> Erlang.  Partly because I am trying to become better with Erlang itself and
>>> partly out of stubbornness.  I had looked at using a browser based GUI but
>>> for what I'm doing I really don't want (or need) to be too complicated.
>>> One of the other responses suggested using C# to create the front end and
>>> communicate with Erlang via TCP.  I had thought of that as well, but
>>> decided to pursue using pure Erlang but have become stymied by wxErlang and
>>> its difficulty.  Most likely I will end up pursing the C# (or similar)
>>> front end.
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On December 6, 2017 at 3:04 AM Zachary Kessin <zkessin@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>
>>> I had thought it would be an interesting idea to build a GUI toolset
>>> around Erlang such that each widget on screen was a process. That being
>>> said I think to develop such a toolkit would probably cost on the order of
>>> $1,000,000 (Total guess on the number).
>>>
>>> If I had to develop a desktop app with Erlang I would probably use
>>> something like Electra to do a virtual browser with an Elm Frontend.
>>>
>>> Zach
>>> ᐧ
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Sergej Jurečko <
>>> sergej.jurecko@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>
>>> What we did when we wanted to ship a GUI app with Erlang was running erl
>>> in the background and communicate over stdin/stdout.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sergej
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5 Dec 2017, at 09:07, Alex S. <alex0player@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, you can always implement your view and controller
>>> in something like C#/F#, and your model in Erlang, and hook them up via
>>> TCP. Alternatively, there was an Erlang-toF# compiler floating around I
>>> believe.
>>>
>>> 2017-12-03 22:43 GMT+03:00 Alan Gingras <alangingras@REDACTED>:
>>>
>>> Has anyone tried using Windows Forms (.net) with Erlang?  This would be
>>> in a similar fashion to way Python can use Windows Forms.  On Linux I
>>> believe this would be Mono (http://www.mono-project.com/d
>>> ocs/gui/winforms/).  Basically I think I’m looking for something
>>> similar to Python’s “import” and C#’s “using” features.  If no one has
>>> anything, any hints on how a feature like this might be implemented.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Basically, I have been working on implementing genetic programming in
>>> Erlang and would like to provide a GUI front end.  The WxWidgets front end
>>> that comes with Erlang is difficult at best.  I’ve used several different
>>> GUI kits on *nix and Windows platforms but WxWidgets seems the most
>>> difficult for me.  So I’m trying to see what else is available.  I followed
>>> Joe Armstrong’s quest earlier this year and didn’t see where he came up
>>> with anything.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
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