Danie Schutte danie@REDACTED
Sat Jan 7 18:24:42 CET 2006

Hi Ernie,

  yes we use yaws in quite a few "interfaces" - web and xml related.

In terms of front end interfaces we provide a few options:
	1.  Traditional web pages served by yaws.
	2.  XML Interfaces where the customer has got his own "front ends"  but want 
to talk XML to us - also yaws.
	3.  Flash frontends - that looks flashy ;) and interfaces with the backends 
with either direct url calls or xml calls - into yaws.
	4.  Certain interfaces that talk directly via tcp/ip to the backend (no yaws 
on these).  (SMS, USSD, GPRS, WAP, (GSM and CDMA related)) and some other 

We have what we call a "bank in a box" so almost all / any financial 
interface / protocol is currently supported (and flavored :) )

Just as a matter of interested - the 650 000 transactions as I said was a 
pilot - the launch is estimated to start 16 January 2006 - and the 650 000 
trans is estimated to be only about 2 - 3% of full production volume.


Yes we use mnesia in an application called AFM Advanced File Management.  The 
application is a "universal" file handler for pre-processing.  All 
administrative and financial files are read, validated and submits the 
information for processing by the banking or any other system - receives 
feedback and updates the record and file statuses after processing and then 
generates the required output files.  

Mnesia is something we have liked since inception and used quite extensively - 
the only concern from financial auditors - is the security around mnesia - 
which you might have to deal with - and some resistance from DBA's :).

Although I must admit that we are starting to utilize MySQL 5 quite
 extensively as well.


Using Mnesia and YAWS.

I think it depends on the transactions and requirements.  It is not just 
functionality and usability - audit trails and policies from certain 
financial institutions also restrict options and solutions.

YAWS we found was not such a big concern from an auditing perspective, whereas 
Mnesia could be tough to get past the big audit firms.

Some of the things that we have seen and was integrated solutions where the 
security for your web pages was kept in Mnesia - which work fine.

We have since done a solution with a centralized credentials server - which 
can be utilized by both yaws other frontend and backend solutions - think 
LDAP / Kerberos - but "system specific" which runs on mnesia - but we are 
moving that to MySQL for policy reasons. 

If you want to discussed it, just drop me a mail - or maybe we can get 
together - we currently have guys travelling almost all over the world.  
There are various solutions and the Erlang community is one of the best in 
providing them.

On Saturday 07 January 2006 17:41, Ernie Makris wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm curious, are you using yaws? What are the front ends that deliver
> all those transactions?
> Also, are you using mnesia?
> I'm trying to figure out the best way to use mnesia and yaws in those
> types of scenarios.
> Thanks
> Ernie
> Danie Schutte wrote:
> >Hi Serge,
> >
> >   I can give you some references from our clients.  We only use Erlang,
> > and it has been running in production for more than 3 years.
> >
> >Our clients are A grade banks and also some private companies that operate
> > in the financial sector.
> >
> >Another example is the article from British Telecom, the reliability of
> > the Ericsson switches, and the volumes of calls - which also translates
> > to revenue.
> >
> >The CIO can even contact me, as we answer the same questions for other
> > banks. In actual fact we start implementations in 5 new countries during
> > January and February, so there is a reliable track record that Erlang can
> > deliver.
> >
> >The one production system, which has been a pilot project for 12 months
> > now :) - is handling 650 000 financial transactions a month, total value
> > being managed by the system - about 30 000 000 USD per month.
> >
> >Kind regards
> >Daniel

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