[erlang-questions] [ANN] Positive version 13.3.7

Tristan Sloughter <>
Fri Mar 25 23:10:34 CET 2016


All I want to say, since the argument, 'it is just a joke/satire', is so
often used in this discussion and many, many others, is that something
being a joke in itself does not mean it is in good taste. Nor does it
mean satirical take doesn't come from a place of smug jerkiness.

-- 
  Tristan Sloughter
  

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016, at 05:00 PM, Joe Armstrong wrote:
> Since when is humor toxic?
> 
> I suspect that node folks don't actually read posts relating to Erlang
> stuff, and even if they did might be amused or more likely puzzled.
> 
> When I first saw Jespers post I thought WFT - I didn't think that
> figuring out if an integer was positive was a problem and I thought
> maybe Jesper has seen deeper into integers than I had imagined,
> perhaps figuring out if lazy large integers are positive is undecidable.
> 
> Then I read the code and realised it was a joke - so Jesper had fooled
> me for the time it took to check his code.
> 
> Does satire have to be prefaced by a warning - "might be offensive to
> XXXX" the version 13.3.7 might have warned me - can you imagine a world
> without satire? I even used to watch Jon Stewart from Sweden of all
> places
> just because he was good at satire - he poked fun at stuff that I had
> no knowledge of, but he did have a point of view and that I liked.
> 
> I buy the Guardian just to read John Crace whose political commentary
> is devastatingly funny and nice to no man. A good critic has a pen
> dipped
> in venom ... (Google and read John Crace, and you'll get the idea) -
> in his hands the pen is a powerful weapon.
> 
> I actually like reading stuff from "smug jerks" since this gives me
> the opportunity to either agree or disagree - bland text that nobody
> could possibly
> disagree with is not my cup of tea.
> 
> Can you imagine world with no smug jerks? Nothing to get cross about,
> nothing to like? Is being called a smug jurk and insult or a compliment?
> 
> Many of the funniest writers I know are very definitely smug jerks if
> you disagree with them - or brilliant humorists if you agree with
> them. The jerkiness is in the eye of the beholder, not the the
> beholden.
> 
> Viewing software as practised today is potentially harmful - I could
> react with
> horror or amusement to what I see - a lot of what I see stinks so how
> should I react? - be angry?, be cross? be pios, be smug. I choose to
> be amused. It's a
> symptom of our humanity - we muddle through.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> /Joe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Sean Cribbs <>
> wrote:
> > This kind of thing is unnecessary and toxic. You've just reinforced the
> > perception that the Erlang community is made up of smug jerks. Please stop.
> >
> > Sean
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Jesper Louis Andersen
> > <> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm pleased to announce version 13.3.7 of the positive library.
> >>
> >> https://github.com/jlouis/positive
> >>
> >> The library solves the extremely hard problem of figuring out if an
> >> integer is positive or not. Drawn upon experience from the Node.js and
> >> Javascript communities, the necessity of such a library should be obvious.
> >>
> >> We already have several issues that needs solving, and we have had several
> >> pull requests in its short lifetime.
> >>
> >> --
> >> J.
> >>
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