[erlang-questions] your first choice?

Radoslaw Gruchalski radek@REDACTED
Mon Feb 16 13:16:55 CET 2015

I've done a little bit of web stuff in Erlang recently as part of learning
Erlang and the components mentioned by David is (mostly) what I used. This
is a great answer.
I think the only thing I would love to add is that Apache Thrift JSON
protocol seems to be the most approachable way of transforming to and from
JSON in Erlang. I'd definitely play with that.

Kind regards,

Radek Gruchalski

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On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:31 PM, David Welton <davidnwelton@REDACTED>

> Hi,
> > dear erlangers,
> > with my plan to build a web app (a yapp was what i had in mind) i have
> been
> > studying tools.
> > there seems to be general agreement on rebar.
> > but which should i choose;
> This is "asking for it", as they say, as there's nothing that gets
> programmers going more than a good discussion of tools :-)
> > yaws or mochiweb?
> > mnesia or mongoDB?
> > chicago boss or ...?
> > XML or JSon?
> > intellij idea or eclipse?
> > and before i buy a server, Win or Linux or ...?
> > while whatever i study seems ok, it is all taking a lot of time and
> keeping
> > me from coding in erlang.
> > there is some good info on the web, but i value your opinions more.
> > understanding you will be required to maintain your app, if you were
> > starting from scratch, which choice would you make first?
> I'd turn the problem around.  What are you trying to do, and why are
> you set on using Erlang for it?  "Learning Erlang" is a perfectly
> acceptable response, but it does color the discussion some.
> I've been doing "web stuff" for nearly 20 years, and here's my opinion
> about the state of Erlang and "web stuff":
> * It's got most of the pieces you need.
> * There is no really good framework that puts them all together in a
> decent way to get started.  Chicago Boss was a valiant attempt at
> this, but... it's got some warts.
> * As an example of the kind of thing you'll have to learn about and
> put together yourself, consider using a database: at a minimum, you're
> going to want to integrate something like fuse and poolboy to make it
> work at any kind of scale, and make it work robustly.
> * The bits and pieces I would use: cowboy web server, Postgres
> database with epgsql, erlydtl for templates, jiffy for json, poolboy,
> fuse, lager, recon, relx and a few other bits and pieces.
> * If putting all that together is not your thing, and you are more
> interested in getting something up and running as soon as possible,
> you might look at other languages.  Elixir's Phoenix framework runs on
> the same VM as Erlang.  Going further afield, you have all kinds of
> choices, which have their own advantages and disadvantages, depending
> on what you want to accomplish.  I'm personally a fan of Ruby on Rails
> for how much stuff you can do by including various libraries.  People
> have managed to build businesses on PHP, Node.js, Java, Python, Perl,
> Tcl and all kinds of other systems.
> * Don't buy a computer, rent a VPS via something like Linode, and run
> Linux (or maybe some BSD system if you feel adventurous).
> --
> David N. Welton
> http://www.welton.it/davidw/
> http://www.dedasys.com/
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