[erlang-questions] Time for OTP to be Renamed?
Fri Feb 14 00:28:45 CET 2014
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Pieter Hintjens <> wrote:
> I'm sorry for adding to a thread so long that the scroll bar on my
> browser broke and I had to revert to Mutt.
> The C language had for many years a separate set of tools called
> "libraries". At some stage a set of these became "standard" and were
> incorporated into the ANSI definition of the language. The libraries
> still exist, with their original weird names. However we don't speak
> of C / stdlib. We speak of C99, perhaps.
> It's not about killing OTP and/or changing its name to something
> sexier. It's about accepting that this is a standard part of the
> language and can be removed from the front of the stage.
> Simpler is almost always better.
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Ivan Uemlianin <> wrote:
> > Dear Loïc
> > Thanks.
> > I need to do some detailed experiments with release packaging &
> upgrading. I can certainly see that upgrades affecting how state is
> represented might be simpler done offline.
> > Best wishes
> > Ivan
> > --
> > festina lente
> >> On 13 Feb 2014, at 21:54, Loïc Hoguin <> wrote:
> >> They are very hard to get right. Upgrading a live system is really
> difficult, even with OTP. There are many ways things can go wrong, from the
> new code breaking things to your state being partially lost (worse than
> losing all of it!) while upgrading it.
> >> It requires a lot of testing to get right, and as such is eating up a
> lot of time. A 2 minutes change can easily take you 2 hours to test and
> make sure the upgrade will actually work as intended.
> >>> On 02/13/2014 10:51 PM, Ivan Uemlianin wrote:
> >>> Dear Loïc
> >>> Please pardon my hopping over from another thread.
> >>>> On 13 Feb 2014, at 20:54, Loïc Hoguin <> wrote:
> >>> ...
> >>>> ... few people use release upgrades for example...
> >>> What are the good reasons for not using release upgrades? I am full
> of n00bish enthusiasm for them.
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Ivan
> >>> --
> >>> festina lente
> >> --
> >> Loïc Hoguin
> >> http://ninenines.eu
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