[erlang-questions] A proposal for Unicode variable and atom names in Erlang.

Max Bourinov <>
Mon Oct 22 16:16:11 CEST 2012


Please remember that when we talk about those poor guys that know Erlang
bud doesn't know English we still don't know for sure if they are exists :-)

Best regards,
Max




On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Ulf Wiger <> wrote:

>
> On 22 Oct 2012, at 15:49, Michael Richter wrote:
>
> Indeed I can't help but notice that all the people arguing for the status
> quo benefit from the status quote because they're either:
>
>    1. native English speakers; or
>
> I'm not, and I believe very few who have commented so far are.
>
>
>    1. people who've already expended the wholly unnecessary effort to
>    learn English just so they could do their real job.
>
>
> Wholly unnecessary? This can only possibly be true for people whose native
> language is big enough that there can be sufficient volumes of high-quality
> literature about programming and Computer Science.
>
> In my own experience, studying Engineering in Sweden, so much of the
> course literature was in English that it would have been near-impossible to
> make it through without good English skills (of course, a fairly high grade
> in English is needed just to get in). So for me, the effort was in fact
> wholly necessary - mandatory, in fact, as English is not an elective in
> Swedish schools.
>
> So it seems I fit in neither of your two categories. ;-)
>
> Frankly neither has much standing with me when expressing opinions on
> language.
>
> The people who do have standing?  They're people like the Chinese hackers
> or Japanese hackers or Korean hackers or Indian hackers you never hear from
> because they speak to each other instead of you.
>
>
> That's a valid point, and although my point was that openness and code
> sharing should be top priorities for a language like Erlang, I have
> personally been influential in getting things added to Erlang/OTP that were
> primarily (or even exclusively) of interest in proprietary settings. The
> examples that come to mind are the 'sensitive' process flag and encrypted
> debug_info in beam files.
>
> To further clarify, I'm not necessarily opposed to the suggestion, but am
> neither entirely convinced that being able to use non-English variable
> names is that much help (although I'm open to being convinced otherwise).
> Supporting unicode encoding and comments in foreign languages, surely, and
> this is also where it really helps to be able to write in a language that
> you're comfortable in.
>
> BR,
> Ulf W
>
>  Ulf Wiger, Co-founder & Developer Advocate, Feuerlabs Inc.
> http://feuerlabs.com
>
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