[erlang-questions] Erlang is touch of genius

Rapsey rapsey@REDACTED
Fri Jun 22 21:31:05 CEST 2012

I do think the language itself makes them much less necessary. I've been
working in erlang for 5 years or so full time. Never used a debugger and
never had a need to. Never  used and IDE and also never needed to. I write
my code in a plain text editor (sublime text 2) and have erlang running in
an external terminal. I have an erlang process running that scans my src
folders every few seconds and checks if anything changed and compiles any
source file that has. I don't think I could be remotely as productive using
any other language.


On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Ingo Jaeckel

> What about tool support e.g. refactoring, (remote) debugging,
> deployment, monitoring, profiling, code analysis tools, etc. There are
> so many tools supporting the development process for more popular
> languages like Java and C#. Do you think that (due to the language
> itself?) those are not needed for Erlang? Compared to the
> free/commercial tools available for Java, the Erlang tool chain looks
> not mature enough to me.
> I *love* the language itself and achieving nine 9s is great, too [1].
> But don't you need so much more than great language concepts on a
> day-to-day basis when you are choosing the language for your next
> super-cool project?
> Ingo
> [1] http://ll2.ai.mit.edu/talks/armstrong.pdf
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Wojtek Narczyński <wojtek@REDACTED>
> wrote:
> > On 2012-06-22 17:07, Paul Barry wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, I'd agree... I'm happy to be drinking the Erlang kool-aid, too.
> >>
> > Yes, it is amazing how all the pieces of the puzzle fit together:
> processes,
> > messaging (send semantics, selective receive), locality in garbage
> > collection, functional programming, strong dynamic typing, pattern
> matching,
> > atoms, recursion, hot code update, distribution, .... And there are more
> > jigsaw pieces coming: native implemented processes, hasmaps (which are
> > conceptually funcions, by the way). While java is collapsing under its
> own
> > weight, there is no horizon of erlang improvement even remotely visible.
> >
> > Then comes the OTP, where you realize that many problems you are not yet
> > even aware of, have already been solved.
> >
> > --Regards,
> > Wojtek Narczynski
> >
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