[erlang-questions] Erlang shows its slow face!
Wed Nov 17 16:15:27 CET 2010
That was supposed to be 'hire' not 'higher' in that last paragraph. My
auto-spell-corrector goes insane at times :)
- Edmond -
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:21:21 +1100, Edmond Begumisa
>> But overcoming that initial "speed" bias is a tough sell. I'm not
>> saying there is an answer to this, and I know that the development team
>> is doing their best to make Erlang faster, but we mustn't forget that
>> for many, the "perceived" slowness is one factor that prevents them
>> developing in Erlang.
> I'm not sure that speed matters that much to people anymore (at least
> not for application developers, it obviously matters for system
> developers). Remember when Java and (classic) Visual Basic came out?
> There were many concerns about speed, but in a short period of time
> these languages dominated in application development (especially for
> business applications) because people had other higher priorities like
> ease-of-learning and time-to-market* as Richard pointed out.
> Personally, I think it's two other factors that are mainly causing
> Erlang's slower than expected penetration in general commercial
> application development (as opposed to it's well known niches)...
> 1. Erlang is perceived as "weird"
> A lot of people I've forwarded links to on Erlang just find it too
> strange! I'm not taking just syntax, concepts like variables that don't
> change are just too odd for them. And things they find familiar are done
> too differently. "How do I create an object-model?" they ask.
> 2. Not "main-stream"
> Realising that is a chicken-and-egg issue, one problem in application
> development is people feel comfort in numbers. If something isn't used
> by a good swath of software companies people are very hard to convince
> to use it. If it is wide-spread people graduate it to the mythical
> status of a "industry standard" and insist on using it even when there
> I'm seeing it popup in the most unusual places, places which are
> inappropriate in my view.
> * Those two particular issues have a big impact on cost of development.
> Shorter development time obviously impacts the investment amount.
> Ease-of-learning means you can higher less-experienced, less-skilled
> programmers and more importantly, pay lower salaries. It wouldn't
> surprise me if the average cost to higher a competent Erlang programmer
> for 6 months is double that for a competent C# programmer! Sad, but
> these things matter. IMO, commercial application developers pay dearly
> in the end for choosing the wrong tools for the wrong reasons.
> - Edmond -
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