[erlang-questions] Re: Emacs as Erlang IDE for newbies

Dale Harvey <>
Wed Dec 23 22:58:21 CET 2009


erlware mode has flymake mode integrated,
http://github.com/erlware/erlware-mode

and wrangler is available from
http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/projects/forse/

(+no_error_module_mismatch might need to be added to the erlc in flymake.sh
for erlware mode, seems to be on a different version from mine)

2009/12/23 Deryk Barker <>

> egarrulo wrote:
>
>> 2009/12/23 Michael Turner <>
>>
>>
>>> Why should a newbie be fine with just a syntax-highlighting editor?
>>> Newbies
>>> do need more help from tools, not less. I maintain that an easy way to
>>> compile and run projects and a source-level debugger are vital.
>>>
>>> me:
>>> I'm starting to think that's the best choice for now -- no need to call
>>> it an editor, just say "here's a program that helps you write, change
>>> and run Erlang programs."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Bravo! That would be a smart move ;-)
>>
>> Indeed, who cares about editors? They just need "a program that helps
>> /them/
>> write, change
>> and run Erlang programs."
>>
>> On the face of it, Wrangler might seem a strange choice -- for, surely,
>>
>>
>>> refactoring tools are for Real Programmers?  But maybe not.  Maybe
>>> beginners should have them at the beginning.  Some common refactorings
>>> are very simple, like "change this function name everywhere."  I wish
>>> I'd had that when I was starting out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> As for Flymake, I really don't buy this idea that syntax error messages
>>> from the Erlang shell are now adequately clear.  Hardly a day goes by
>>> that I don't have to peel myself off the ceiling, shouting, "'Syntax
>>> error before: &'?!  Be specific!"  I want to know more.
>>>
>>> And so will noobs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> That's not a wrong thought.
>>
>> I've suggested Emacs because, besides its uncluttered interface, you could
>> tailor its configuration and its packages' ones to suit your needs,
>> exposing
>> as much functionality as you wish.
>>
>>
>>
> Could someone inform a not-quite-noob (I'll have more thoughts on all of
> this when I've finished my ****** marking of final exams)  let me know where
> to find flymake and wrangler; this is the first I've heard of either and
> they sound very interesting.
>
> deryk barker
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