[erlang-questions] Using Dialyzer on Ubuntu 9.10?

[Jeremy Raymond]

I've installed the Erlang packages with the erlang-dev ppa and the dialyzer
is happy. I'd love to see the newer Erlang releases available also as you
suggest in the bug comments. Is this much work to do?

Also where would one locate the general information about the Ubuntu Erlang
packages? I'd be great if the info on adding the Erlang dev ppa were
available wherever the normal documentation is for this. Had these ppa been
available earlier where would I have looked to know of it's existence? Where
can I get info on updates?

Thanks a lot. Your quick responses and support on this are much appreciated!


On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Elliot Murphy <elliot.murphy@REDACTED>wrote:

> 2009/12/19 Kostis Sagonas <kostis@REDACTED>:
> > Lovei Laszlo wrote:
> >> You have a point here, but using packaged software has its own
> advantages
> >> too, and Erlang packages in Debian are getting better and better. (Maybe
> >> there will be packages built with debug_info sometime, who knows.)
>
> Hi Lovei!
>
> I made a PPA with the Ubuntu Erlang package rebuilt with debug info a
> few minutes ago.
> https://edge.launchpad.net/~erlang-dev/+archive/ppa
> If you go to that page it will explain how to add the PPA to your
> Ubuntu system, you should then be able to update and get a rebuilt
> erlang package installed that included debug info.
>
> I have no experience using Dialyzer myself, so I haven't confirmed
> that the package works although I expect it to. If you or someone else
> can confirm that the package works and actually contains the debug
> info I'd appreciate that.
>
> > In Debian yes.  In Ubuntu not.  Apparently, the Ubuntu people who decided
> > distributing erlang without debug_info do not fully understand the
> > consequences of their action (and their excuse is lame).  Somebody who
> cares
> > about Ubuntu should tell them.
>
> Wow Kostis that's a rather rude comment. What is the lame excuse that
> you are talking about? From my firsthand knowledge of the situation in
> both Debian and Ubuntu as it evolved (and speaking as the manager of
> the dev team that petitioned to have Erlang included in the default
> Ubuntu install), the Ubuntu developers do understand the consequences,
> which are that building a smaller runtime made the erlang packages
> small enough that we could fit them and CouchDB onto the LiveCD and
> ship CouchDB installed by default for all desktop Ubuntu installs. I
> realize this creates an inconvenience for Erlang developers who aren't
> building Erlang from source, and just never got around to setting up
> an alternate PPA. I do care about making Erlang development easy on
> Ubuntu (although I am not an official Ubuntu developer), which is why
> I'm working on setting up this PPA at 11:45 PM on a saturday night.
>
> Jeremy, although I first noticed this discussion because of following
> erlang-questions, I really appreciate you submitting that bug report
> to Ubuntu and including all the details. I think the bug should be
> closed as wontfix, and I hope the PPA that I set up helps solve the
> problem. In fact, I'm open to working on getting newer releases of
> Erlang into that or a similar PPA to make life even better for people
> who are doing erlang development work on Ubuntu. My full response in
> the bug is available here:
>
> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/erlang/+bug/498558/comments/2
>
> --
> Elliot Murphy | https://launchpad.net/~statik/
>
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