[erlang-questions] Scharfes S (WAS: Erlang 3000?)

Johnny Billquist <>
Wed Nov 19 23:37:02 CET 2008


Intreresting. Thanks a lot.

Can people now agree that it is not correct to just replace a ß with ss, 
and a correct capitalization of ß is not possible in Latin-1?

Just as I would say it would not be correct to replace ö with oe, even 
though ö is sorted as oe in German. (Ö is a separate letter with it's 
own correlation in Swedish, by the way.)

	Johnny


Julian Bäume skrev:
> moin,
> 
> On Wednesday 19 November 2008 17:08:02 Valentin Micic wrote:
>> I was under impression that one may write a lowercase ss with the same
>> meaning and that "ß" just represents a short way of writing "ss".
> No, in fact you change the pronunciation of the vowel right before "ß" or 
> "ss". If you write "ss", the vowel before is spoken much shorter than with "ß" 
> following.
> 
>> As for pronunciation, I think that single s is indeed pronounced "sz", thus
>> Suzuki in German sound quite contrary to what one would expect. I might be
>> wrong, but scharfes s is used to eliminate "z" sound in "s", hence Strasse,
>> I mean -- Straße.
> Pronunciation of the "ss" or "ß" in words is the same. One example here is: 
> "muss" and "Muß". The difference in pronunciation is just that you speak a 
> short "u" in the first and a long one in the second case.
> 
> Concerning the uppercase version of "ß": There is quite no need for that. The 
> discussion about the need of an uppercase "ß" is much older than computers.... 
> Since April this year there is a Unicode character that represents the capital 
> ß.
> 
> This article in the English wikipedia gives a short overview about this topic:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_ß
> 
> Some time ago I read a very interesting discussion in a German typography 
> forum about how this letter should look like.
> http://www.typografie.info/typoforum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=300&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
> I guess, it was this one, but I'm not sure.
> 
> just my 2ct..
> Julian
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