[erlang-questions] Strings - deprecated functions

bengt e cean.ebengt@REDACTED
Fri Nov 24 16:29:29 CET 2017


Greetings,

Would something like 'go fix' be possible for Erlang, in this particular
case?


bengt

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Eric des Courtis <
eric.des.courtis@REDACTED> wrote:

> From my perspective, we want the following things:
>
>    - The libraries to stay simple, small and clean (that means throwing
>    away things)
>    - Our old code to continue to work without modifications (that means
>    having a mechanism for compiling old code targetting new versions of Erlang)
>    - To mix old and new Erlang code together
>
> I see no reason why we can't have both. What I am not okay with is:
>
>    - Endlessly growing libraries of functions that are there for legacy
>    reasons (wasting space and confusing new developers)
>    - Fixing libraries over and over again because something got marked
>    deprecated
>
> So how do we get both?
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 8:37 AM, zxq9 <zxq9@REDACTED> wrote:
>
>> On 2017年11月24日 金曜日 08:13:49 Eric des Courtis wrote:
>> > While I feel the pain of Joe having suffered countless hours fixing
>> > deprecation in various old libraries. I have to say there is something
>> to
>> > be said for throwing things away.
>> >
>> > I can't help but think I can have my cake and eat it too. Maybe
>> something
>> > like a transpiler to compile old Erlang to new Erland and keep the
>> Erlang
>> > VM lean?
>>
>> If the new functions did what the old functions do, then sure.
>>
>> But that's not how thing have turned out.
>>
>> On reflection, I actually think the new string functions should have
>> been rolled into a "utf8" module. Or something. And the "strings" module
>> could either have had implementation adjustments that use the utf8
>> utilities underneath or been left alone to deal with latin1 (but either
>> way be amply documented).
>>
>> I'm the heaviest unicode string dealing guy I know. I'm SUPER happy that
>> the idea of "string" has been advanced (finally!) to mean "unicode
>> strings".
>> But breakage is a thing, and Lloyd and Joe have a point.
>>
>> -Craig
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