[erlang-questions] HEART

Tristan Sloughter t@REDACTED
Tue May 12 18:58:20 CEST 2015

I'd suggest relx (github.com/erlware/relx) or rebar3 which use relx

I've never had to do what you are trying to do but I know the
extended_start_script has the ability to return the pid of the running
node and `start` uses `run_erl` for running as a daemon and allows
attaching through a fifo pipe.

It would be great to improve the generated release scripts and whatever
else we can to make this easier.

Tristan Sloughter t@REDACTED

On Tue, May 12, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Dmitry Kolesnikov wrote:
> Hello Roberto,
> The rebar makes a dirty work to generate "node release” and necessary
> bootstrap scripts. Please check create-node command and concept of
> erlang releases: https://github.com/rebar/rebar/wiki/Rebar-commands
> http://www.erlang.org/doc/man/reltool.html
> It generates script looks something similar to this one. It also hooks
> the heart to watchdog the node.
> https://github.com/fogfish/hyperion/blob/master/rel/files/hyperion
> Personally, I am following an idea to package the application to
> release and ship it to destination hosts. Long time ago, I’ve made an
> empty “erlang release” project as show-case to study and debug various
> scenarios. You might look on it here:
> https://github.com/fogfish/hyperion
> Best Regards, Dmitry
>> On 12 May 2015, at 19:07, Roberto Ostinelli
>> <roberto@REDACTED> wrote:
>> Fair enough, however at this point I cannot even a single one of
>> these systems to simply START *and* STOP an Erlang release. I can
>> easily start it (on ubuntu, `sudo service myapp start`) but the STOP
>> command will always fail. That's because the init script cannot get a
>> grasp of the BEAM process' pid (for some reason), hence it cannot
>> stop it.
>> Any ideas on how to do that?
>> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Jesper Louis Andersen
>> <jesper.louis.andersen@REDACTED> wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Roberto Ostinelli
>>> <roberto.ostinelli@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>> In non-erlang systems, I would have standard watchdogs that launch
>>>> an application on OS boot, and then monitor it and relaunch it if
>>>> necessary.
>>> The heart system in Erlang is a simple watchdog, mostly used if you
>>> nothing else that will restart your application. In an SysV init
>>> system, there is no automatic watching and restart. In RcNG in
>>> FreeBSD, there is no restart. In OpenBSDs rc, there is no automatic
>>> restart.
>>> But as you say, many modern init systems also provides watching of
>>> the applications it starts, and in that case I wouldn't run with
>>> heart enabled. Better to let the system above handle it, and plug
>>> into its monitoring/reporting and so on.
>>> Heart is very useful if you start nodes outside the control of the
>>> system watchdog though. In that case, they won't be restarted, and
>>> you can run heart on those.
>>> --
>>> J.
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