[erlang-questions] "detached VM" vs "VM under screen"

[Fred Hebert]

The tab support has been added to R15, if I recall.

We run erl in -noshell mode, but always distributed. If the need
arises, I use a remote shell (still started from the same node) to do
my diagnostics/debugging, just connecting as a hidden node and
starting a remote job with ^G. I find it nicer than using screen,
especially since software like screen or tmux have sometimes frozen on
me. In these cases, I think it's simpler to just start a new remote
shell from a new connection and leave the application undisturbed.

You just have to be careful not to type 'q()', 'halt()' or
'init:stop()' in the job running on the production node ;)

I generally think it's nicer to do it that way than in a screen
session -- that way you can daemonize your Erlang processes, and
integrate them better in their environment.

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:19 PM, James Aimonetti <james@REDACTED> wrote:
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> We run everything in detached mode, and use a bash script to connect to
> the VM when we need access to it directly.
>
> Our bash script boils down to:
>
> exec erl $ERL_COOKIE -name ${SHELL_NAME} -remsh ${REMOTE_SHELL}
>
> with SHELL_NAME usually generated by SHELL_NAME = "con_$(date
> +%s)@`hostname`".
>
> You won't get tab-complete on your modules/functions (I think the
> standard erlang modules work though), but it works well enough for our
> purposes.
>
> On 01/05/2012 05:45 AM, Max Bourinov wrote:
>> We also run everything under screen. And it is nice to have shell = access
>> to all things in the running system, but you must know what you do in there
>> :-)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 05.01.2012, at 17:26, Jesse Gumm <gumm@REDACTED> wrote:
>>
>> I run under screen, since I run screen for everything already, it's nice to
>> always have the erlang shell up and ready if I need it.
>>
>> -Jesse
>>
>> --
>> Jesse Gumm
>> Owner, Sigma Star Systems
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>> On Jan 5, 2012 7:03 AM, "CGS" <cgsmcmlxxv@REDACTED> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> One major preference to use -detached (implies -noinput which implies
>>> further -noshell) option is when you want to create a persistent
>>> application which doesn't depend on your connection with the machine where
>>> you run the application. It is similar with "nohup" command under Linux. It
>>> also implies the use of less resources than "screen", but with no
>>> capability to interact directly with it.
>>>
>>> CGS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/05/2012 12:27 PM, Zabrane Mickael wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> Is there any preference between running a VM in a "detached mode"  (i.e
>>>> erl -detached ...)
>>>> or simply running it inside "screen" for example witout detaching from it
>>>> (i.e erl ...) ?
>>>>
>>>> What are the pros/cons?
>>>> Best practices?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Zabrane
>>>>
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