[erlang-questions] Where is the Erlang bug-tracker?

Mon May 25 15:42:18 CEST 2009

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:51:40PM +0200, Carl McDade wrote:
> Raimo,
> 
> Markmail is an achive service that simulates an email client which
> makes it easy to read and find info.

I will try to find some time to have a look at it. Seems
to be a good alternative to Google (Groups).

There are also other public mailing list archives:
http://www.nabble.com/Erlang-Bugs-f14097.html

> 
> I did not find all erlang mailing lists there but I found that there
> is a mirror of the mailing lists on Google groups. Hopefully this will
> remain even after the changes because it maintains the threaded
> control of a conversation better than the archive pages.

Yes, it will remain. We administrate that (Erlang Progamming) too.
Also, hopefully the thread view in the new (old-fashioned) archive
viewer will feel better than the current.

> 
> Question: "Unfortunately the archives will become strictly dynamic, so
> they can no longer be mirrored like before"
> 
> Does this mean you have a different plan of action for mirrors or that
> you are eliminating them?

We have a plan for the not too distant future to migrate to a
content managed website (mostly dynamic), so the mirroring problem
will then take a big step up. We need a plan for mirrors in that
future but have no clear one yet. Now it is only the mailing
list archive mirroring that is affected, and it can be found
in our archive pages, the Google Group, or in Nabble
as mentioned above. There are probably easy-to-find links from
erlang.org to those missing.

> 
> Question: Since there is no public tracker and I could not find any
> changelog listed on the website. How do you find out if something has
> been fixed or marked as broken? find the status of a reported bug?

There are changelogs for the Open Source releases e.g:
http://erlang.org/download/otp_src_R13B.readme

For bugs reported on erlang-bugs, you should get feedback
on the same list (check the archives). We could always
improve on feedback, but keep on it and we will reply.

> 
> 
> /Carl
> 
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Raimo Niskanen
> <raimo+erlang-questions@REDACTED> wrote:
> > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:44:26PM +0200, Carl McDade wrote:
> >> So I wrote GPL instead of EPL out of habit, kill me. If you want to
> >> flame me and talk about use of web content then please start another
> >> thread or post it on the site. I am not interested.  I am more
> >> interested in hearing about the bug tracking system and etiquette in
> >> this one. So I won't respond to anything outside of this anymore.
> >>
> >> My next question is to the erlang.org webmaster on the coming upgrades
> >> to the mailing list. Will there be an on site search or will we have
> >> to continue to use Google?
> >
> > We will keep on using Google Custom Search.
> > Previously we maintained an own site search but it rotted.
> > Google has served us well (as far as I have heard) despite
> > their tendencies for world dominance.
> >
> >>
> >> Does anyone know if the bug mailing list is on Markmail? I have not
> >> been able to find it.
> >
> > Never heard of Markmail. erlang-bugs (at) erlang (dot) org
> > is the bug report mailing list. You can read about it
> > at http://www.erlang.org/faq.html, and if you follow a few
> > links: http://www.erlang.org/mailman/listinfo/erlang-bugs
> > but the latter page will disappear in a few days...
> >
> > We do not have a public bug tracker.
> >
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Anders Nygren <anders.nygren@REDACTED> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Carl McDade <carlmcdade@REDACTED> wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> The page is from here
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.erlang.org/course/sequential_programming.html which is not
> >> >> part of any book.
> >> >>
> >> >> There is no copyright that I can see. Are you the author? If so and
> >> >> you can show ownership then I will remove it on request.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > So You have no idea about who has the copyright, and still think that
> >> > you can republish it without attribution?
> >> >
> >> >> The manual has the ericsson copyright and since this is under that
> >> >> link is it the same?
> >> >>
> >> >> If so then it should be covered under the GPL.
> >> >
> >> > And You have not bothered to find out what license Erlang is using.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> The page would still be without annotations(copyright notices) if I
> >> >> hand mirrored the site which I am allowed to do under the priveleges
> >> >> given by the site owners. But I choose only to use the information
> >> >> rather than resync.
> >> >>
> >> >> What exactly is your point? Do you have something against mirrors and
> >> >> reprints of GPL material?
> >> >
> >> > I am not Kunthar, but I find it in poor style to republish things without
> >> > attribution, and then making up stuff when someone points it out to You.
> >> > Hint, Erlang is NOT GPL.
> >> >
> >> > /Anders
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> The information is being duplicated so that I can give it extended
> >> >> options (interaction with other developers) that will promote Elang as
> >> >> web language and for me to make comments on as I learn.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Carl McDade <carlmcdade@REDACTED> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Kunthar <kunthar@REDACTED> wrote:
> >> >>>> http://www.hiveminds.co.uk/?p=35971
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Don't you have enough imagination to change citations from the book?
> >> >>>> I don't even see any copyright notice in page, what a shame!
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> \|/ Kunth
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Carl McDade <carlmcdade@REDACTED> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Does Erlang have an accessible bug tracker or is everything handled in
> >> >>>>> house and via the mailing list?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> --
> >> >>>>> Carl McDade
> >> >>>>> Content Management Systems Consultant
> >> >>>>> www.hiveminds.co.uk
> >> >>>>> ________________________
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> >> >>>
> >> >>> MVH
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Carl McDade
> >> >>> Content Management Systems Consultant
> >> >>> www.hiveminds.co.uk
> >> >>> ________________________
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Carl McDade
> >> >> Content Management Systems Consultant
> >> >> www.hiveminds.co.uk
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> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carl McDade
> >> Content Management Systems Consultant
> >> www.hiveminds.co.uk
> >> ________________________
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> >
> > --
> >
> > / Raimo Niskanen, Erlang/OTP, Ericsson AB
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Carl McDade
> Content Management Systems Consultant
> www.hiveminds.co.uk
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