handling partitioned networks
Sean Hinde
Sean.Hinde@REDACTED
Wed Sep 27 12:47:34 CEST 2000
Uffe,
Thanks for the info - it is a tough nut no doubt about it.
My system uses all disc based tables so I'm not sure a scheme like you use
in AXD301 will quite fit.
In eddie they have some mechanism which tries to work out islands of nodes
which have been partitioned and then set_master_nodes and restart some of
the smaller groups. Again this doesn't seem appropriate for my system which
has pairs of redundant nodes holding persistent data.
I my case I shouldn't have lost too much data during a partitioned network
outage so better tools to manually bring the whole thing back up in parallel
without getting into deadlocks would be very useful..
e.g. set_master_nodes only seems to kick in if the nodes still detect they
are partitioned, it would be useful to be able to force a table/schema load
from another node regardless of the perceived status.
I have also seen research on schemes where logs are kept during partitioned
network outages and on startup the nodes negotiate conflicts and work
themselves back into a consistent state but this is pretty mindbending
stuff.
I'll think some more about each of your mechanisms.
Thanks and Rgds,
Sean
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ulf Wiger [mailto:etxuwig@REDACTED]
> Sent: 27 September 2000 08:30
> To: erlang-questions@REDACTED
> Subject: handling partitioned networks
>
>
>
> I read Sean Hinde's EUC2000 report -- good stuff!
>
> There was a passage in there about the problems with partitioned
> networks. I agree, this is a very tough nut to crack.
>
> I will describe some of the things we've done at AXD 301 to
> address this problem:
>
> 1. We have a fully redundant system with N mated pairs at the
> Erlang level.
>
> 2. The first mated pair, termed the base pair, runs the O&M
> functionality; if both of these nodes crash, the system is
> considered to be down; these nodes also have the mnesia
> schema on disk.
>
> 3. All other nodes have a ram copy of the schema (using mnesia's
> 'extra_db_nodes' variable); if they lose contact with both
> base nodes, they will restart.
>
> 4. We have implemented a patch to net_kernel, which is supported
> by OTP (in R5B and R7B as I understand it):
> "-kernel dist_auto_connect once" will allow nodes to automatically
> connect only one time (happens when the "second" node starts up),
> but as soon as communication fails, one of the nodes will have
> to restart for communication to be re-established (there is a
> possibility to explicitly connect as well, but we don't use that)
>
> 5. (4) is combined with a "backdoor" system, where a process on
> each node periodically sends a UDP "alive" message to all
> other (statically known) nodes; upon receipt of an "alive"
> message from a node which is not in the nodes() list, one can
> conclude that the network has been partitioned. Through the
> same UDP connection, the nodes can negotiate who should restart.
>
> 6. Mnesia has a "master nodes" concept, where one can specify a
> set of nodes from which the tables should unconditionally be
> loaded. When a node restarts to resolve inconsistency, it will
> set master nodes to the other nodes known to be good at the time.
>
> 7. There is a possibility of table load deadlock, where two nodes
> cannot decide who has the most recent copies. To detect this,
> we have a process calling mnesia:wait_for_tables/2 early in
> the startup phase. The table wait processes on each node
> send messages to each other upon each wait_for_tables() timeout,
> performing a WFG analysis to determine whether nodes are
> waiting for each other. This is not air tight (I think), because
> nodes can go down or come up late during the table load phase
> and mess things up, but I think we cover most possible events.
>
>
> Actually, I think most of this could be implemented in a fairly
> generic way. The part that needs to be customized for a particular
> system is mainly the logic deciding who should restart to resolve a
> partitioned network situation.
>
> /Uffe
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