<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /></head><body><div data-crea="font-wrapper" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 16px; direction: ltr"><div style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 16px"></div>That's a good one, thank you for sharing!<div><br></div><div>dieter<br><br><div></div><br><br><div data-anchor="reply-title">Am So., Jun. 2, 2019 20:34 schrieb T Ty <tty.erlang@gmail.com>:</div><blockquote><div><div>
<div dir="ltr"><div>I recommend using record for a very different reason and not in the form you showed in your example. <br></div><div><br></div><div>My recommendation is to prefix the module name to the record. e.g</div><div><br></div><div>```</div><div><font face="courier new, monospace">-module</font>(<font face="courier new, monospace">ppool_serv).</font></div><div><font face="courier new, monospace"><br></font></div><div><font face="courier new, monospace">-record(ppool_serv_state, ...).</font></div><div><font face="courier new, monospace">```<br></font></div><div><font face="courier new, monospace"><br></font></div><div><div>My reasoning is during an error report having just a list or tuple or map would result in an unintelligible data structure displayed. With a record, as above, you can determine at a quick glance the record in question. It is also easier to determine the attributes in the record in this manner. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers<br></div><div><br></div><div> <br></div></div></div><br><div><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 2:24 PM I Gusti Ngurah Oka Prinarjaya <<a href="mailto:okaprinarjaya@gmail.com" target="_blank" tabindex="-1" rel="external">okaprinarjaya@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left: 1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for all of you guys. It's very very clear now. Wow.. very enlightening! thank you.</div><div><br></div><div>The key is:</div><div>Using tuple will ruin your life when you need to add a new element in your state. Because tuple do really really need to match the order of elements. Because yes i absolutely lazy to remember the order of tuple's elements.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for the additional knowledge about type theory algebra data types, it's a new knowledge for me. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Pada tanggal Min, 2 Jun 2019 pukul 18.57 Dmitry Kolesnikov <<a href="mailto:dmkolesnikov@gmail.com" target="_blank" tabindex="-1" rel="external">dmkolesnikov@gmail.com</a>> menulis:<br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left: 1ex"><div><div>Hello,</div><div><br></div><div>There was quite good reasoning already about records. I just want to make a quotation from my resent post about records. I hope it helps you to catch the reason why…</div><div><br></div><div><div>Type theory and a functional programming operates with [algebraic data types](<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebraic_data_type" target="_blank" tabindex="-1" rel="external">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebraic_data_type</a>). They are known as a composition of other types. The theory defines two classes of compositions: product types (tuples, records) and co-product types (sum, enumeration or variant types). Product types are strongly expressed by [records](<a href="http://erlang.org/doc/reference_manual/records.html" target="_blank" tabindex="-1" rel="external">http://erlang.org/doc/reference_manual/records.html</a>) in Erlang. </div><div><br></div><div>```erlang</div><div>-type fullname() :: binary().</div><div>-type address() :: binary().</div><div>-type city() :: binary().</div><div><br></div><div>-record(person, {</div><div> name :: fullname(),</div><div> address :: address(), </div><div> city :: city()</div><div>}).</div><div>```</div><div><br></div><div>The beauty of Erlang records (product type) is that they definitions are only available at compile time. The compiler has complete knowledge of defined "algebra" and catches misuse errors. The usage of records in your code benefits to write correct, maintainable code and support refactoring. Use them to define your domain models!</div><div><br></div><div>```erlang</div><div>#person{birthday = "18810509"}.</div><div><br></div><div>%% Compiling src/person.erl failed</div><div>%% src/person.erl:18: field birthday undefined in record person</div><div>```</div><div><br></div><div>There are few other benefits of records over other data types: type testing and pattern matching. These subject has been widely covered at [official documentation](<a href="http://erlang.org/doc/programming_examples/records.html" target="_blank" tabindex="-1" rel="external">http://erlang.org/doc/programming_examples/records.html</a>):</div><div><br></div><div>```erlang</div><div>%%</div><div>%% type testing</div><div>myfun(X) when is_record(X, person) -> ...</div><div><br></div><div>%%</div><div>%% pattern matching</div><div>myfun(#person{name = Name}) -> ...</div><div>``` </div></div><div><br></div><div>As a summary, I would strongly advertise the usage of records to reflect your domain. Other types will work too...</div><div><br></div>Best Regards,<div>Dmitry<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 2 Jun 2019, at 14.34, bengt <<a href="mailto:cean.ebengt@gmail.com" target="_blank" tabindex="-1" rel="external">cean.ebengt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div><div>Greetings,<br><br>It is true that it is a matter of taste but remember that some Erlang containers can not be used to pattern match. Using one of those handle_call/3 would only be one function clause. And while maps can be pattern matched the compiler will not help you with spelling mistakes, as it does with records.<br><br><br>Best Wishes,<br>bengt<br><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 2 Jun 2019, at 13:25, Stefan Hellkvist <<a href="mailto:hellkvist@gmail.com" target="_blank" tabindex="-1" rel="external">hellkvist@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="courier new, monospace">...<br>handle_call({run, Args}, _From, {Limit, Spv, Refs, Queue}) when N > 0 -><br> {ok, Pid} = supervisor:start_child(Spv, Args),<br> Ref = erlang:monitor(process, Pid),<br> NewRefs = gb_sets:add(Ref, Refs),<br> NewState = {Limit-1, Spv, NewRefs, Queue},<br> {reply, {ok, Pid}, NewState};</font><br></div><div><br></div><div>We also can use the above alternative code right?<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, you can use whatever Erlang term you prefer - record, tuple, map, a list of maps containing records of tuples...</div><div><br></div><div>What you choose is a matter of taste and depends on your requirements. A record for instance has the advantage over a tuple, that you access elements by name and the order of elements therefore becomes irrelevant. This could give advantages if you one day decide to add another field to your state. With the tuple approach this would likely break every access to the tuple everywhere in the code, but with a record where you access and match by names most of your code might still work...plus you never need to remember what meaning the third or fourth element in your tuple has l, because it has a descriptive name.</div><div><br></div><div>Stefan </div></div>_______________________________________________<br>erlang-questions mailing list<br><a href="mailto:erlang-questions@erlang.org" target="_blank" tabindex="-1" rel="external">erlang-questions@erlang.org</a><br><a href="http://erlang.org/mailman/listinfo/erlang-questions" target="_blank" tabindex="-1" rel="external">http://erlang.org/mailman/listinfo/erlang-questions</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>erlang-questions mailing list<br><a href="mailto:erlang-questions@erlang.org" target="_blank" tabindex="-1" rel="external">erlang-questions@erlang.org</a><br><a href="http://erlang.org/mailman/listinfo/erlang-questions" target="_blank" tabindex="-1" rel="external">http://erlang.org/mailman/listinfo/erlang-questions</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>
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