<div dir="ltr">Erlang's dialect is in English. Therefore the context is in English language, not your native language. Therefore the word is offensive to Erlang's audience.<div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Fred Hebert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mononcqc@ferd.ca" target="_blank">mononcqc@ferd.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 02/13, Sashan Govender wrote:<br>
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I think you just need to tolerate different cultures better. A word that is<br>
deemed racist in one culture isn't the same in another.<br>
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This is wrong. This is a classical bad argument that is related to the *paradox of intolerance*. Unless I am simply unaware of it, there is no English-speaking culture for which the word 'coon' (and not just 'raccoon') is somehow a very important concept integral to their culture, such that not using it would be oppressive in some way.<br>
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In any case, the paradox of intolerance goes like this:<br>
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Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.<br>
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You can't just go and honestly try to make the argument that purposefully using a term that is deemed racist by most of the anglosphere is somehow cool and good because another unnamed culture probably sees no problem about it. How is that in any way reasonable?<span class=""><br>
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There are many other uses for coon.<br>
Maine Coon is a type of cat.<br>
Coon is type of cheese in Australia. Go on - tell all of Australia to stop<br>
eating coon.<br>
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The tool is called 'coon', not 'Maine coon', and it is not called 'coon (cheese)'. It's not called 'raccoon', and it does not have a single raccoon image. Instead you have commands like 'coon build', 'coon release', and a hosting site like 'coonhub'.<br>
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And that some cheese brand uses the name does not mean it's any decent idea for a programming tool. What the hell of a kind of logic leap is that? Are you unable to see context as worthwhile or to imagine that someone might think "this is the racist term" more easily than "this is clearly a reference to cheese"<br>
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This can't be anything but bad faith. This is not really the topic on which to argue as a sport.<span class=""><br>
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Next you'll be telling me to rethink the use of the work 'monkey' or<br>
'gorrilla' for a library. Where does it end?<br>
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It ends with respectfully not trying to piss off entire segments of the human race with shitty naming strategies that have very obvious racist overtones, as soon as you learn what their meaning is. Everyone is allowed to make mistakes, but if you double- and triple-down on it, you deserve the shitstorm coming your way from public backlash. Hands down.<br>
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I'm sorry that using racist terms is somehow integral to your appreciation of programming libraries, but *not* using racist terms is somehow integral to my appreciation of programming communities.<br>
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It seems we're in a quandary here, so I'll refer to the conclusion to the paradox of intolerance that follows the earlier quote: "We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant."<br>
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so gently piss off.<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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