<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hi Michael,</div><div><br></div><div>Actually, teaching elementary students how to program is an interesting problem, but wasn't what I had in mind when I started this thread.</div><div><br></div><div>I was thinking about how to leverage low-cost, low-power ARM boards like the Raspberry Pi 3 to evangelize Erlang among three groups:</div><div><br></div><div>o makers -- or at least those interested in advancing their skills beyond Arduino and wiring.</div><div> A single board and Erlang stack would suffice. </div><div>o software engineers interested in learning more about distributed computing; mnesia </div><div> replication, failure, and recovery; and/or Riak. ARM clusters of two to five nodes would </div><div> do the trick.</div><div>o software engineers interested in learning all about network protocols. Two boards running </div><div> Erlang would get these folks well under way.</div><div><br></div><div>So, cost of entry would range from $50 to $450 per student --- not counting instructional materials.</div><div><br></div><div>My sense is that there any number of hidden-gem Erlang libraries and open-source libraries that are neglected or, at best, under used for lack of good documentation. This could be a powerful way to expand interest and adoption.</div><div><br></div><div>My assumption here is that a more vibrant and knowledgable Erlang community benefits us all.</div><div><br></div><div>All the best,</div><div><br></div><div>LRP</div><div><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Mar 19, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Michael Turner <<a href="mailto:michael.eugene.turner@gmail.com">michael.eugene.turner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">I'm not writing Erlang anymore. I keep meaning to unsubscribe from the list, but then something interesting pops up.<div><br></div><div>I was involved briefly in the Computer Education Project at Lawrence Hall of Science in Berkeley, back in 1969-1971. Logo was just starting to happen there at the time. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature">Regards,<br>Michael Turner<br>Executive Director<br>Project Persephone<br>K-1 bldg 3F<br>7-2-6 Nishishinjuku<br>Shinjuku-ku Tokyo 160-0023<br>Tel: +81 (3) 6890-1140<br>Fax: +81 (3) 6890-1158<br>Mobile: +81 (90) 5203-8682<br><a href="mailto:turner@projectpersephone.org" target="_blank">turner@projectpersephone.org</a><br><a href="http://www.projectpersephone.org/" target="_blank">http://www.projectpersephone.org/</a><br><br>"Love does not consist in gazing at each other, but in looking outward together in the same direction." -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Lloyd R. Prentice <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lloyd@writersglen.com" target="_blank">lloyd@writersglen.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Thanks, Michael,</div><div><br></div><div>Way back in the day I was the founding editor and publisher of Classroom Computer News, the first magazine devoted to computer applications in K-12 classrooms. I was aware of Alan Kay's work at the time, but haven't kept up. Seymour Papert's work with Logo at MIT was a major figure and influence at that time. The big controversy was Computer-Assisted Instruction vs. teaching programming skills. </div><div><br></div><div>Are you currently teaching or developing in Erlang?</div><div><br></div><div>All the best,</div><div><br></div><div>Lloyd<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Mar 19, 2016, at 1:28 AM, Michael Turner <<a href="mailto:michael.eugene.turner@gmail.com" target="_blank">michael.eugene.turner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Some years back, I mentioned that Erlang seemed a lot closer to what Alan Kay originally meant by "object oriented" (which at the time did not include inheritance) than most O-O languages since. He has long been occupied with the issues of education through writing software, even in the early grades. His foundation's software work seems a bit moribund (I guess Open Cobalt is what it has come down to, not a wildly active project) but what they've done over the years might provide some ideas.<div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div>Regards,<br>Michael Turner<br>Executive Director<br>Project Persephone<br>K-1 bldg 3F<br>7-2-6 Nishishinjuku<br>Shinjuku-ku Tokyo 160-0023<br>Tel: <a href="tel:%2B81%20%283%29%206890-1140" value="+81368901140" target="_blank">+81 (3) 6890-1140</a><br>Fax: <a href="tel:%2B81%20%283%29%206890-1158" value="+81368901158" target="_blank">+81 (3) 6890-1158</a><br>Mobile: <a href="tel:%2B81%20%2890%29%205203-8682" value="+819052038682" target="_blank">+81 (90) 5203-8682</a><br><a href="mailto:turner@projectpersephone.org" target="_blank">turner@projectpersephone.org</a><br><a href="http://www.projectpersephone.org/" target="_blank">http://www.projectpersephone.org/</a><br><br>"Love does not consist in gazing at each other, but in looking outward together in the same direction." -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Lloyd R. Prentice <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lloyd@writersglen.com" target="_blank">lloyd@writersglen.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br>
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A year or so ago there was on this list a wonderful spirited discussion of how to get kids and educators interested in Erlang.<br>
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We have now low-cost low-power 64-bit hardware platforms that open boundless opportunities:<br>
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<a href="https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-3-on-sale/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-3-on-sale/</a><br>
<a href="http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G145457216438" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G145457216438</a><br>
<a href="https://www.pine64.com/product" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.pine64.com/product</a><br>
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<a href="http://www.techspot.com/news/64113-western-digital-creates-314gb-hard-drive-specifically-raspberry.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.techspot.com/news/64113-western-digital-creates-314gb-hard-drive-specifically-raspberry.html</a><br>
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So, I'm wondering if the Erlang community, particularly our corporate members, would be interested in mounting a programming challenge to students of all ages to develop innovative applications on one or another of these platforms? All entries would be released as open-source. Incentives might range from hardware to cash to internships to jobs. I, in my Writers Glen incarnation, would be willing to seed the program with $500 and devote some time if we can secure enough interest and resources to mount a credible program.<br>
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Or, short of such a grandiose scheme, I'm wondering if there are folks in the community interested in cooperating off-list in exploring and publishing on-line or in print under Creative Commons license how-tos and tutorials designed to inspire kids and push these platforms to their limits.<br>
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