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It generally a percentage of the sale price (more for the ebook
actually). That being said no one gets rich writing books on Erlang.
I just got my most recent royalty check for my book and well, I
could buy a car with it (and by that I mean a toy car for my kids!)
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That being said if you buy the early release you will also get the
updates and the final book<br>
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--Zach<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/8/14, 9:41 PM, Lee Sylvester
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<pre wrap="">Well that’s the thing. I’d hazard a guess (and could be wrong) that Francesco’s and Steve’s contract offers them $1 for every printed book sold and 50 cents for every ebook.
Was I close? ;-)
Lee
On 8 Jul 2014, at 19:39, Raoul Duke <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:raould@gmail.com"><raould@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">i haven't looked at the books here, but having been somebody who
produced things and wondered how anybody could ever make a living at
it, and knowing that writers throughout history rarely made much after
the publisher etc. got a cut, i didn't have the same reaction to the
$50 price tag. can't say i'd *spend* the $50 since i'm broke and
there's a zillion other things to spend $50 on first. i'd try to get
it via inter library loan or something :-).
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Francesco Cesarini
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<pre wrap="">Alas, that is how O'Reilly price their books. Having a high price and then
discounting is not the approach I would pick. That is why discount codes are
being handed out on public mailing lists and social media. I recommend you
use them (Read, no one pays full price for an O'Reilly book). As an unedited
book, the cost is for the final book which we hope will complement what is
already out there. It is a different approach to OTP in action. One I've
been using for 15 years when teaching OTP.
/F
On 08/07/2014 19:14, Lee Sylvester wrote:
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Wow, $50? Yeah, that is steep. If this were some black arts compiler
book or video encoding bible, then that would be something else. But a book
on Erlang/OTP just doesn’t fall into that bracket…
I may wait til it falls in the bargain bucket ;-)
Lee
On 8 Jul 2014, at 19:08, Miles Fidelman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mfidelman@meetinghouse.net"><mfidelman@meetinghouse.net></a>
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<pre wrap="">On 8 Jul 2014, at 16:05, Francesco Cesarini
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Hi all,
a shameless plug. Steve Vinoski and I are working on a book focused on
distributed, scalable systems with OTP. It is available from O'Reilly as an
Early Release from their website. The first eight chapters we released cover
(in great detail) all other behaviours. We started writing, and before we
knew it, we had several hundred pages on behaviours alone. Last week, two
new chapters, including the Introduction & Special processes and
Implementing your own behaviours were released. We are now focusing on
release handling (hgg), code upgrade and architectural patterns.
What is available is an unedited draft, with new chapters and
improvements published as they become available. You can find more info
here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920024149.do?intcmp=il-prog-books-videos-product-intsrch_erlang_ct">http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920024149.do?intcmp=il-prog-books-videos-product-intsrch_erlang_ct</a>
If you use discount code authd, you will get 50% off the Early Release,
and 40% on pre-orders of the the printed copy.
Looking forward to your feedback,
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<pre wrap="">Not for nothing, but $50 for the undedited work-in-progress seems a bit
steep (and yes, I saw the discount code). I also note that "rough cuts"
aren't included in my Safari subscription.
Usual practice that I've seen is for works-in-progress to be free, with
tools that support comments from early readers.
Sounds interesting - but, from the TOC (all that's available without
paying), it sure looks like it covers the same ground as "Erlang and OTP in
Action."
Miles Fidelman
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In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
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