Yes, I want the other process to immediately take over. Requiring a load balancer change isn't an elegant solution, I don't understand why you're trying to avoid adding this useful functionality.<span></span><br>
<br>On Monday, May 14, 2012, Loïc Hoguin wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">You stop listening after you're done gracefully stopping your currently running processes.<br>
<br>
For HTTP that could be something like:<br>
<br>
Set acceptors to 0.<br>
Optionally set 'onrequest' hook to reply with a 503 (for keepalives).<br>
Gracefully stop your processes.<br>
Stop the listener.<br>
<br>
Or do you need another process to take over immediately? Because in that case you usually don't need to use the same listening port, you can just change your firewall/lb rules for the port redirection from 80->P1 to 80->P2.<br>
<br>
On 05/15/2012 03:34 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I don't think that is sufficient, you will need to stop listening as<br>
well so the next OS process can take over.<br>
<br>
On Monday, May 14, 2012, Loïc Hoguin wrote:<br>
<br>
  This will be possible later on by reducing the number of acceptors<br>
  to 0. This should be added sometimes this summer after the acceptor<br>
  split happens in Cowboy.<br>
<br>
  On 05/14/2012 07:26 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:<br>
<br>
    I agree that graceful shutdown is very application-specific.<br>
    However,<br>
    cowboy doesn't currently facilitate any sort of graceful<br>
    shutdown unless<br>
    you read the source code and poke directly at the appropriate<br>
    supervisors like I did. The application specific stuff is easily<br>
    done on<br>
    your own with a process registry or a timeout, we used a<br>
    combination of<br>
    gproc and a timeout if things didn't shut down in an acceptable<br>
    time frame.<br>
<br>
    I would suggest something like cowboy:stop_listener/1, maybe<br>
    something<br>
    like cowboy:stop_listening/1 or cowboy:stop_accepting/1.<br>
<br>
    On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Loïc Hoguin <<a>essen@ninenines.eu</a><br>
    <mailto:<a>essen@ninenines.eu</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
      Right, this is pretty much what I said to Paul in PM. It was in<br>
      R14B03 that the behavior changed. I apparently have a @todo<br>
    wrong<br>
      past that release, and will take a look if I find other<br>
    things to<br>
      fix in the docs.<br>
<br>
      Copy pasting my private reply on this:<br>
<br>
      Ultimately if we remove the listener I think we want to stop<br>
    everything.<br>
<br>
      For "server is overloaded" situations, you can very well use the<br>
    'onrequest' hook which can be set or changed dynamically through<br>
      cowboy:set_protocol_options, in addition to giving it in<br>
      start_listener. Takes a fun that has a single arg as a Req,<br>
    returns<br>
      a Req, and if you replied from within it it doesn't dispatch the<br>
      request and stops there (you can also force close the<br>
    connection by<br>
      setting the Connection header to "close").<br>
<br>
      And adding this:<br>
<br>
      For graceful shutdowns, well it's highly application<br>
    dependent. Some<br>
      apps are just short lived connections, so not accepting requests<br>
      plus a short delay ought to do it. Some are long lived, which<br>
      probably requires to send a shutdown message. Some apps may have<br>
      connections critical enough that you don't want to shutdown<br>
    them.<br>
      It's up to the application implementor to devise the<br>
    strategy to use<br>
      for stopping.<br>
<br>
<br>
      On 05/14/2012 02:34 AM, Fred Hebert wrote:<br>
<br>
        This is just a guess, but is it possible that this is<br>
    due to the<br>
        fact<br>
        Cowboy is using simple_one_for_one supervision? In Pre<br>
    R15, if I<br>
        recall<br>
        correctly, the shutdown of sofo supervisors was<br>
    asynchronous. The<br>
        supervisor would just die and let its children figure<br>
    out it was<br>
        gone.<br>
<br>
        Starting with R15, things started being synchronous and the<br>
        supervisor<br>
        would wait. A brutal kill that made things work fine<br>
    before R15<br>
        (excluding the issue of the application master killing<br>
        everything) could<br>
        start breaking in later versions.<br>
<br>
        Again, this is just a guess, without looking at the<br>
    source or<br>
        anything.<br>
<br>
        On Sun May 13 14:12:18 2012, Bob Ippolito wrote:<br>
<br>
          Yes, it is documented that request processes<br>
    continue after<br>
          you stop<br>
          the listener. This is incorrect.<br>
<br>
          On Sunday, May 13, 2012, Anthony Ramine wrote:<br>
<br>
          Paweł, from what I gather your supervisor waits 1 ms<br>
    before<br>
          killing its children; I think it's pretty normal<br>
    that some<br>
          messages are left unprocessed.<br>
          Bob, cowboy_requests_sup' shutdown strategy is<br>
    brutal_kill,<br>
          is it<br>
          documented somewhere that Cowboy waits before<br>
    killing requests'<br>
          processes?<br>
<br>
          Regards,<br>
<br>
          --<br>
          Anthony Ramine<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
          Le 10 mai 2012 à 22:37, Bob Ippolito a écrit :<br>
    <a href="https://gist.github.com/____2655724" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/____<u></u>2655724</a><br>
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    <<a href="https://gist.github.com/2655724" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/<u></u>2655724</a>>><br>
<br>
            On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Paweł Peregud<br>
    <<a>paulperegud@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a>paulperegud@gmail.com</a>><br>
    <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',<br>
    '<a>paulperegud@gmail.com</a><br>
    <mailto:<a>paulperegud@gmail.com</a>>');>> wrote:<br>
<br>
            I was having fun with supervisors yesterday<br>
    (Cowboy seems to<br>
            fail to fulfill the promise of not killing<br>
    request processes<br>
            after listener removal) and I have an example.<br>
    I've only<br>
            investigated the case when supervisor is killed,<br>
    so YMMV.<br>
            Example code is attached. You may modify it to<br>
    check the<br>
            behavior in your case.<br>
<br>
            Start supervisor tree with<br>
    exp_sup_sup:start_link(). Execute<br>
            test with exp_sup_sup:test() and<br>
    exp_sup_sup:test_simple().<br>
<br>
            In case of dying supervisor the answer is "no,<br>
    it does not".<br>
<br>
            When supervisor dies, your process is killed as<br>
    via link<br>
            mechanism, so it may leave some unprocessed<br>
    messages in<br>
            inbox. To make sure that every delivered message<br>
    is served,<br>
            you need to add process_flag(trap_exit, true).<br>
    Messages that<br>
            are sent after the moment when supervisor dies<br>
    are not<br>
            processed.<br>
<br>
            Best regards,<br>
<br>
            Paul.<br>
<br>
<br>
            On May 9, 2012 11:06 AM, "Andy Richards"<br>
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    <mailto:<a>andy.richards.iit@googlemail.com</a>><br>
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    <mailto:<a>andy.richards.iit@googlemail.com</a>>');>> wrote:<br>
<br>
            Hi,<br>
<br>
            I can't seem to see any confirmation in the<br>
    documentation<br>
            so was wondering if anyone could confirm if<br>
    messages are<br>
            still sent to a supervised gen_svr following a<br>
    shutdown<br>
            message?<br>
<br>
            If so how do I cleanly shutdown my gen_svr without<br>
            loosing messages? I read in the supervisor child<br>
    spec<br>
            that a shutdown can be set to infinity which i hoped<br>
            would allow me to process the msg's in my<br>
    mailbox but if<br>
            I do this will my module continue to receive<br>
    messages<br>
            from other processes? Is my approach flawed and<br>
    if so<br>
            what other ways are there to cleanly shutting<br>
    down my<br>
            gen_svr without loosing messages?<br>
<br>
            Many thanks,<br>
<br>
            Andy.<br>
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      --<br>
      Loïc Hoguin<br>
      Erlang Cowboy<br>
      Nine Nines<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
  --<br>
  Loïc Hoguin<br>
  Erlang Cowboy<br>
  Nine Nines<br>
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-- <br>
Loïc Hoguin<br>
Erlang Cowboy<br>
Nine Nines<br>
</blockquote>