<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'><div style="text-align: center;"><div style="text-align: left;">I have so far studiously avoided getting in any of these discussions. I personally think that the current way is what best corresponds to my view of a mailing-list, it is a list mail addresses. When I post to the list I am really just sending to all the people on the list, it is a practical and simple way of keeping track of to whom I am sending. So a reply is a reply to the sender. This maybe a slightly naïve way of viewing a list but to me this is what a mailing-list is.<br></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br>If it were a forum, which I think it should be, then it would be a different matter.<br><br>Robert<br></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br></div></div>----- "Michael Turner" <michael.eugene.turner@gmail.com> wrote:
<br>> "<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">I would like to understand *why* you don't judge this very simple solution to your problem as adeguate."</span><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><br>> </span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; ">It's not just about me. It's about people who have never encountered this controversy before, because they're on normal mailing lists, and who write their first-ever message (and many more afterward) to *this* list. People who haven't even subscribed yet.</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><br>> </span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; ">So, what do you propose? Something like this, perhaps: In the sign-on message for new subscribers to the Erlang mailing list, we include a message saying, "Get in the habit of always using 'Reply all' instead of 'Reply', for *all* of your e-mail correspondence, and after a while, you won't find it annoying in the least that this mailing list has 'Reply-to' set only to the address of the message sender, unlike other mailing lists you're on."</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><br>> </span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; ">Or, if not that, then exactly *how* do you propose to change the world's habits? (Venture Capitalists have a term for this, when they encounter a business plan that's predicated on people giving up habits: "Boiling the ocean.")</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><br>> </span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; ">When it's "purely logical versus human nature", human nature always wins.</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><br>> </span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; ">-michael turner<br>>
</span></font></div><br>> <div class="gmail_quote">> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Pierpaolo Bernardi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:olopierpa@gmail.com" target="_blank">olopierpa@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class="h5">> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:28, Alex Shneyderman <<a href="mailto:a.shneyderman@gmail.com" target="_blank">a.shneyderman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>
>> According to your intuition, what should be the difference between<br>>
>> an action called "Reply" and another called "Reply to all"?<br>>
><br>>
> In the case of this list (or any mailing list) I would expect reply to<br>>
> go to the list<br>>
> because I am aware of the fact that the discussion is to be conducted on<br>>
> that list. If I want to make sure that the email goes to the original author I<br>>
> will take extra care/effort to send the reply to that one person.<br>>
><br>>
> And it is not just his intuition - my intuition tells me the same<br>>
> thing as his :-)<br>>
<br>>
</div></div>OK. That would be my intuition, too, if there was only one action<br>>
available for replying to messages. But in every modern mail client<br>>
there are two possibilities, usually labeled something like "reply"<br>>
and "reply to all", so my question still stands unanswered.<br>>
<br>>
The people who complain about the correct behaviour could easily<br>>
obtain their desired behaviour if they just *don't* use the "reply"<br>>
command (Never. Not only for messages coming from properly<br>>
configured mailing lists), and *always* use "reply to all" (Always.<br>>
Not only for for messages coming for properly configured mailing lists).<br>>
<br>>
I would like to understand *why* you don't judge this very simple<br>>
solution to your problem as adeguate. Really. Mine is not a<br>>
rethorical question.<br>>
<font color="#888888"><br>>
P.<br>>
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