Who cab be bothered reading it now anyway? :-)<br><br>Robert<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/12/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">Sean Hinde</b> <<a href="mailto:sean.hinde@gmail.com">sean.hinde@gmail.com</a>
> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Please, please give it a rest. Enough. Stop. Cease. Desist.<br><br>This is doing more to damage the reputation of the Erlang community
<br>than any benefit that might be gained from whatever it is you are<br>writing about. Go away!<br><br>Sean<br><br>On 11 Dec 2007, at 16:21, Bengt Kleberg wrote:<br><br>> greetings,<br>><br>> it is good that you always think about the legalities involved in
<br>> email<br>> discussions. not many people do. it would be better if you thought<br>> about<br>> how to communicate in email discussions, too.<br>><br>> some things that helps communication: what is the goal you have in
<br>> mind<br>> when you send an email? if the receiver knows where the discussion is<br>> heading it will help. try to write clearly, not cleverly. if possible,<br>> be nice. avoid rhetorical questions that are thinly veiled threats.
<br>> bullying people will make them shut up, but not change their mind.<br>> give<br>> a context to your questions. do not insinuate that your reader is an<br>> idiot. that either adds to the confusion or creates bad will.
<br>> explain a<br>> lot since mind reading never works.<br>><br>> take your last email as an example. it probably says that you do not<br>> like a personal attack, only not directly. but what is it that you do
<br>> not like? is it to be reminded of a mistake? or that your perfectly<br>> legal and very well crafted writing is called brutal? i do not know<br>> and<br>> if you want me to know, then communication could fix that.
<br>><br>> if you do not want me to know, then the simplest way is to avoid<br>> writing<br>> anything at all.<br>><br>><br>> bengt<br>><br>> Those were the days...<br>> EPO guidelines 1978: "If the contribution to the known art resides
<br>> solely in a computer program then the subject matter is not<br>> patentable in whatever manner it may be presented in the claims."<br>><br>><br>> On 12/07/07 19:08, Isaac Gouy wrote:<br>>> Please consider whether making a personal attack is an appropriate
<br>>> use<br>>> of this mailing list or of your employers email service.<br>>><br>>> I provided a link to the benchmarks game public discussion forum -<br>>> please understand that personal attacks will not be welcomed there.
<br>>><br>>> There's nothing more for me to say.<br>>><br>>><br>>> --- Bengt Kleberg <<a href="mailto:bengt.kleberg@ericsson.com">bengt.kleberg@ericsson.com</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>
>>> greetings,<br>>>><br>>>> as for losing audience i hope that my suggestion at the start of<br>>>> this<br>>>><br>>>> discussion (''do not read this'') was followed by as many as
<br>>>> possible.<br>>>> having experienced isaac some 2-3 years ago (that time was much<br>>>> worse<br>>>><br>>>> since i was unprepared) i expected something like this and thus
<br>>>> offered<br>>>> the warning.<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> taking this from the mail list is a good idea in theory.<br>>>><br>>>> it was my first reaction when things turned ugly all those years
<br>>>> ago.<br>>>><br>>>> unfortunately isaac took the private email i sent him, chopped it<br>>>> into<br>>>> little pieces, removing things like explanations, smilies, etc. he
<br>>>> then<br>>>> posted these pieces as straw man arguments on the mail list. using<br>>>> his<br>>>> normal acerbic tone, he proceeded smashing them to dust.<br>>>><br>>>> i sent another private email explaining that he had hurt me, asking
<br>>>> him<br>>>> to stop doing such things, and giving me an apology. his (private)<br>>>> answer was much more brutal than his mail list postings, the point<br>>>> being<br>>>> that his act was not illegal and he would never apologise. finally
<br>>>> he<br>>>><br>>>> wrote that we should never send private email to each other again.<br>>>><br>>>> so in practice i am not taking this off-line even though it would be<br>
>>> a<br>>>> nice thing for this list.<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> bengt<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> ____________________________________________________________________________________
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