Erlang forums (was Re: PING TEST)

Benjamin Scherrey scherrey@REDACTED
Mon Dec 27 12:50:01 CET 2021

re: "I'm pretty much seeing this as the
end of the graybeard era -- it will definitely be a case of "nobody
realized what they had until it was gone"."

(sigh) I guess it's a sign of age that this keeps happening more and more
frequently to me as well? You absolutely hit the nail on the head. The
Erlang community stands to lose its most valuable asset if this email list
is decommissioned and handed over to some forum managers who clearly don't
appreciate what this ML was.

Merry Christmas

  -- Ben Scherrey

On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 5:10 AM zxq9 <zxq9@REDACTED> wrote:

> On 2021/12/19 9:02, Jeff Schultz wrote:
> > On 18/12/2021 04:02, Igor Clark wrote:
> >> I agree wholeheartedly. Thank you for putting it so carefully and
> >> insightfully, Yao.
> >
> > I also agree.
> >
> > On an internet mailinglist, I can listen.
> > On an internet forum, I am property.
> At least you grok the motivation behind this sort of move.
> A central point I have to drive into my geopol and intel students over
> and over is that "Capacity drives intent". Even if the original intent
> was to make a more "modern" single place to discuss Erlang, once that
> place becomes The One True Community the exclusionary capacity enabled
> by it will eventually change the intent of those running it. (In the end
> it will only make the Erlang community lore harder to find in the noise
> -- but whatever, no online platform is forever unless you do it yourself.)
> I've just had to make my own little island of misfits -- mostly new
> Erlangers who want to solve problems and really don't care about
> anything else, least of all feels politics and other regulatory nonsense
> that people want to inject into projects and communities by rudely
> shoving their CoC into it. I don't really see a way around going
> independent to avoid the worsening social cancer.
> I'll be on the ML as long as it is around and might occasionally check
> the forums if I'm super bored, but I'm pretty much seeing this as the
> end of the graybeard era -- it will definitely be a case of "nobody
> realized what they had until it was gone".
> I have absolutely benefited an unfair amount from having this mailing
> list as a resource for the last several years. Thanks to all for the
> lessons and the laughs. Being proven wrong on the ML has always been one
> of those magical experiences where I could directly map blows to my ego
> to immediately useful lessons learned -- really fantastic stuff.
> A late Merry Christmas to you all! Weee!
> -Craig
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