[erlang-questions] digraph questions

[Lloyd R. Prentice]

Hi Richard,

I’ve found a few interesting JavaScript libraries for visualizing graphs, vis.js among others. I don’t know if they’re sufficient to deal with highly dense graphs or if they provide 3D rendering. Vis.js also has nice features for rendering time lines. 

Vis.js looks sufficiently feature rich for my purposes. So I’m looking into creating a set if custom Nitrogen elements based on vis.js. I’m both skill-set and time constrained so it will be awhile before I can show results. Ideally, I’d like to see a Nitrogen plug-in that’s highly interactive. But I’ve got to polish off erlPress first and much else to do.

Best wishes,

Lloyd

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> On Apr 9, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@REDACTED> wrote:
> 
> I appreciate that these graphs get dense.
> That is precisely why I mentioned Gephi and UbiGraph: three dimensional layout.
> Ubigraph in particular is good at making dynamic 3D layouts;
> if anyone knows a more actively maintained equivalent I would love to hear of it.
> 
> There's a fair bit of work going on in systems biology.
> The C. elegans connectome (wormwiring.org), for example,
> has many thousands of edges.  So visualising rather large
> networks is a hot topic.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 20:52, Hugo Mills <hugo@REDACTED> wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 12:46:21PM +1200, Richard O'Keefe wrote:
>> > The obvious way to visualise a graph would be to drive
>> > something like GraphViz or Gephi or, ideally, UbiGraph
>> > (https://github.com/alan86alves/ubigraph_server has a
>> > copy of the Linux x86-64 version; the official source
>> > is currently unreachable).  There is an erlubi. But
>> > perhaps the thing you might want to look at first is
>> > https://github.com/aol/erlgraph
>> > It will take a bit of patching to get up to date with
>> > current versions of Erlang and Cowboy.
>> 
>>    These kinds of graphs get *very* dense, and it's almost impossible
>> to draw the whole graph in any meaningful sense. You can't just throw
>> the graph at a graph drawing package and expect to get usable output.
>> 
>>    You really need to spend the time on working out what it is you
>> want to show, whether it's "everything directly relating to this one
>> character", or "the sequence of events in this scene", or "who was
>> with who over the course of the story", and then strip out everything
>> else to show the graph. You're going to be spending much more of your
>> time thinking about *what* to show than how to show it, in my
>> experience.
>> 
>>    Hugo.
>> 
>> > On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 11:29, <lloyd@REDACTED> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > The Erlang digraph library looks like it may provide an interesting way to
>> > > diagram scenes in a novel.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 1> Scene10 = digraph:new().
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Imagine:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Setting:"park"
>> > >
>> > > Character1:"Franco"
>> > >
>> > > Character2:"Sophia"
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 2> digraph:add_vertex(Scene10, "Park", "Night").
>> > >
>> > > 3> digraph:add_vertex(Scene10, "Franco", "Old and fat").
>> > >
>> > > 4> digraph:add_vertex(Scene10, "Sophia", "Young and beautiful").
>> > >
>> > > 5> digraph:add_edge(Scene10, "Franco", "Sophia", "loves").
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > OK to here EXCEPT command 5 returns:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ['$e'|0]
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 6> digraph:add_edge(Scene10, "Sophia", "Franco", "hates").
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > OK to here EXCEPT command 5 returns:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ['$e'|0]
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 6> digraph:add_edge(Scene10, "Sophia", "Franco", "hates").
>> > >
>> > > ['$e'|1]
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Wah!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Question 1: How do I see labels?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Question 2: Be cool to add a sequence of actions. I can probably figure
>> > > this out, but is there an elegant solution?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Question 3: I'd love to visualize the graph. I see it can be done in
>> > > Elixir. But I don't know Elixir. Has anyone programmed a way to visualize
>> > > digraphs in Erlang?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Comment: Digraph is crying out for a comprehensive tutorial. I'd love to
>> > > do it, but just don't know enough yet.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Many thanks,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > LRP
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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