[erlang-questions] Coon - new tool for building Erlang packages, dependency management and deploying Erlang services

Stefan Strigler stefan.strigler@REDACTED
Tue Feb 13 01:46:04 CET 2018


Where would we end up if we Bavarians would have to learn English before we
learn to speak it?

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:45 AM Stefan Strigler <stefan.strigler@REDACTED>
wrote:

> I my culture fuck you has no meaning, because I'm German, and we don't
> speak English. So fuck you, you stupid asshole!
>
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:43 AM Stefan Strigler <stefan.strigler@REDACTED>
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, fuck you!
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:42 AM Sashan Govender <sashang@REDACTED>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think you just need to tolerate different cultures better. A word that
>>> is deemed racist in one culture isn't the same in another.
>>>
>>> There are many other uses for coon.
>>> Maine Coon is a type of cat.
>>> Coon is type of cheese in Australia. Go on - tell all of Australia to
>>> stop eating coon.
>>>
>>> Next you'll be telling me to rethink the use of the work 'monkey' or
>>> 'gorrilla' for a library. Where does it end?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 3:52 AM Chris Duesing <chris.duesing@REDACTED>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can't believe this "discussion" is happening. Coon is a racial slur,
>>>> there is no other use of the word. The fact that a bunch of white Europeans
>>>> are pointing out that the dozen people involved in this thread aren't
>>>> offended simply shows the lack of diversity in the mailing list. The "oh
>>>> I'm butthurt because other people get offended by things" is fucking
>>>> ridiculous. It is a racial slur, period. If this isn't a library only
>>>> intended to be used by racist fucks then rename it.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:28 AM, nx <nx@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For what it's worth, the first thing I thought of when I saw the title
>>>>> of this thread was "that is a racist slur". I've also never heard anyone
>>>>> call a raccoon a coon.
>>>>>
>>>>> The news that cowboy was named for "cowboys kill apaches" is
>>>>> disappointing.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:22 AM Fred Hebert <mononcqc@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What I'm saying is that it does not matter how I interpret things. I
>>>>>> asked and the author said publicly it was a raccoon. I'm okay with that
>>>>>> explanation and I'm ready to believe it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My point is that other people won't ask the author, won't know who he
>>>>>> is, and will pick an interpretation and stick with it. They won't need the
>>>>>> context, they won't need anything. They'll just do it. The name can be
>>>>>> interpreted in a racist way, and so it's pretty much guaranteed that it
>>>>>> will be eventually interpreted that way. The author is free to go ahead and
>>>>>> keep the name, and the users and onlookers will be free to read whatever
>>>>>> they want in that name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is 100% my point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Krzysztof Jurewicz <
>>>>>> krzysztof.jurewicz@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fred Hebert writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Anyone is of course free to name their software whatever they
>>>>>>> want. Picking
>>>>>>> > a racist name is however never going to be consequences-free as
>>>>>>> this e-mail
>>>>>>> > thread first shows on the first day of release, and adoption
>>>>>>> figures may
>>>>>>> > also reflect it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Merriam-Webster online dictionary (naming itself as “America’s
>>>>>>> most-trusted online dictionary”) says that there two meanings of “coon”:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ⒈ raccoon;
>>>>>>> ⒉ offensive — used as an insulting and contemptuous term for a black
>>>>>>> person.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I presume that context matters. What makes you think that in this
>>>>>>> context this word means ⒉? Wikipedia in the article about raccoon says that
>>>>>>> is also known coloquially as “coon”, so I guess this is not a very uncommon
>>>>>>> usage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or are you saying that non-racist usages of words that have also
>>>>>>> racist meanings should be eventually abandoned?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (I’m not a native speaker, so bear with my eventual ignorance).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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