[erlang-questions] Coon - new tool for building Erlang packages, dependency management and deploying Erlang services
Charles Hixson
charleshixsn@REDACTED
Mon Feb 12 19:59:28 CET 2018
"Coon" is often used as a shortened name for the animal. If you can
definitely tell from context that that is what is meant, it isn't
(usually) seen as a racial slur. But you do need to know your
audience. If you don't, it's almost certain that a major fraction of
them will consider the slur as a plausible meaning. And that's when the
context implies that you mean "raccoon".
On 02/12/2018 08:52 AM, Chris Duesing wrote:
> I can't believe this "discussion" is happening. Coon is a racial slur,
> there is no other use of the word. The fact that a bunch of white
> Europeans are pointing out that the dozen people involved in this
> thread aren't offended simply shows the lack of diversity in the
> mailing list. The "oh I'm butthurt because other people get offended
> by things" is fucking ridiculous. It is a racial slur, period. If this
> isn't a library only intended to be used by racist fucks then rename it.
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:28 AM, nx <nx@REDACTED
> <mailto:nx@REDACTED>> wrote:
>
> For what it's worth, the first thing I thought of when I saw the
> title of this thread was "that is a racist slur". I've also never
> heard anyone call a raccoon a coon.
>
> The news that cowboy was named for "cowboys kill apaches" is
> disappointing.
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:22 AM Fred Hebert <mononcqc@REDACTED
> <mailto:mononcqc@REDACTED>> wrote:
>
> What I'm saying is that it does not matter how I interpret
> things. I asked and the author said publicly it was a raccoon.
> I'm okay with that explanation and I'm ready to believe it.
>
> My point is that other people won't ask the author, won't know
> who he is, and will pick an interpretation and stick with it.
> They won't need the context, they won't need anything. They'll
> just do it. The name can be interpreted in a racist way, and
> so it's pretty much guaranteed that it will be eventually
> interpreted that way. The author is free to go ahead and keep
> the name, and the users and onlookers will be free to read
> whatever they want in that name.
>
> That is 100% my point.
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Krzysztof Jurewicz
> <krzysztof.jurewicz@REDACTED
> <mailto:krzysztof.jurewicz@REDACTED>> wrote:
>
> Fred Hebert writes:
>
> > Anyone is of course free to name their software whatever
> they want. Picking
> > a racist name is however never going to be
> consequences-free as this e-mail
> > thread first shows on the first day of release, and
> adoption figures may
> > also reflect it.
>
> Merriam-Webster online dictionary (naming itself as
> “America’s most-trusted online dictionary”) says that
> there two meanings of “coon”:
>
> ⒈ raccoon;
> ⒉ offensive — used as an insulting and contemptuous term
> for a black person.
>
> I presume that context matters. What makes you think that
> in this context this word means ⒉? Wikipedia in the
> article about raccoon says that is also known coloquially
> as “coon”, so I guess this is not a very uncommon usage.
>
> Or are you saying that non-racist usages of words that
> have also racist meanings should be eventually abandoned?
>
> (I’m not a native speaker, so bear with my eventual
> ignorance).
>
>
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