[erlang-questions] [ANN] Positive version 13.3.7

Sean Cribbs seancribbs@REDACTED
Fri Mar 25 19:46:58 CET 2016


You have just proved my point. I ask for compassion and you tell me how
wrong I am.

/quit

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 12:39 PM, zxq9 <zxq9@REDACTED> wrote:

> On 2016年3月25日 金曜日 10:04:38 Sean Cribbs wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:20 PM, zxq9 <zxq9@REDACTED> wrote:
> >
> > > EVERYONE! STOP EVERYTHING! SATIRE IS NOW "TOXIC"!
> > >
> > >
> > I'm reminded of this Molly Ivins' quote (
> >
> http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8534-there-are-two-kinds-of-humor-one-kind-that-makes
> > ):
> >
> > "There are two kinds of humor. One kind that makes us chuckle about our
> > foibles and our shared humanity -- like what Garrison Keillor does. The
> > other kind holds people up to public contempt and ridicule -- that's
> what I
> > do. Satire is traditionally the weapon of the powerless against the
> > powerful. I only aim at the powerful. When satire is aimed at the
> > powerless, it is not only cruel -- it's vulgar."
> >
> > I'm sure Jesper intended it to be funny, but it just rubs salt in the
> wound
> > of something that was very embarrassing for the JS community, and makes
> > Erlangers look bad for doing so. All I'm suggesting is that we have some
> > compassion for a change.
>
> Your quotation references the "powerless" VS the "powerful".
>
> WTF
>
> Since when was Erlang the big dog and js the outsider?
>
> Get some perspective.
>
> And yes, massively, unfixably huge screwups that affect users who don't
> even know what is going on but depend on the magic of actual engineers
> doing, on occasion, actual engineering is absolutely worthy of satire.
>
> Especially if said screwups were satirized loud and clear very early in
> the life of the environment in which said screwup later occurred.
>
> You *do* realize it is just about impossible to get funding for an Erlang
> based project merely because of the word "Erlang" being associated with it
> and a crapshoot to get funding for a js project regardless of merit, right?
> Or have you not recently walked the streets of LA?
> (Hint: I have.)
>
> Get off your horse. It already died.
>
> "We shouldn't judge people."
> "But we must somehow make hiring decisions."
>
> "Stop being so judgemental about tech, its all just tradeoffs."
> "That's nice, but our infrastructure has to run on *something* we decide
> today, and the balance of all tradeoffs are not equal."
>
> -Craig
>
> PS: Will anyone second this view? No. Of course not. That is a radical
> thing today. That only means that we are nearer the end of this cycle than
> the beginning. Much less controversial to chain one's self to a convention
> center door with a "code of conduct" taped to one's chest that states
> attendees are forbidden to take actions that are already illegal.
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