[erlang-questions] ML shaped language for the Erlang VM
Iuri Lugão Machado
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Wed Jun 29 18:45:39 CEST 2016
Nice!
I’ve been toying with the idea for a while. Something that resembles F# or Elm (since Erlang has some side effects). But there are some really cool and tricky things that might be fun to solve, such as:
1. How to combine strong and static typing with the let it crash philosophy of Erlang. Since one of the objectives of any strong, static typed language is to avoid runtime errors due to wrong data types being passed, I wonder how to deal with this. Maybe using Elm’s approach of ports and subscriptions would be a good fit.
2. How to make OTP constructs (gen_server, gen_event, gen_statem…) and all the related distribution libraries look “native” to the language. By native, I mean, make language constructs that doesn’t care if your system is single or multi node. The idea might be having something called “The <my language name> architecture” (again, similar to Elm’s Architecture) that is a single, and sane way to write distributed systems and let the language implementation deal with the details.
3. There is no global state in Erlang. You can simulate that using ETS but I don’t see that scaling well in the long run.
Probably there are more caveats than I’ve pointed here. I find the idea of Functional Reactive Programming - FRP - quite fitting the Erlang/OTP ecosystem.
With kind regards,
I.
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> 3. Re: ML shaped language for the Erlang VM (Louis Pilfold)
> 4. Re: ML shaped language for the Erlang VM (Oliver Korpilla)
> 5. Re: ML shaped language for the Erlang VM (Joshua Barney)
> 6. Re: ML shaped language for the Erlang VM (Rickard Andersson)
> 7. Re: ML shaped language for the Erlang VM (Felix Gallo)
> 8. Re: ML shaped language for the Erlang VM (Tristan Sloughter)
> 9. Re: ML shaped language for the Erlang VM (Richard A. O'Keefe)
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> De: Joshua Barney <joshmbarney@REDACTED>
> Assunto: Re: [erlang-questions] ML shaped language for the Erlang VM
> Data: 28 de junho de 2016 08:54:57 BRT
> Para: Louis Pilfold <louis@REDACTED>
> Cc: erlang-questions <erlang-questions@REDACTED>
>
>
> This seems like a very fun project.
> Might I suggest the name BeaML? (Current I can't stop seeing "milf" :-/)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 28, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Louis Pilfold <louis@REDACTED <mailto:louis@REDACTED>> wrote:
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>> Hello!
>>
>> How exciting, I've been toying with creation of something like this myself, but my compiler knowledge isn't quite there yet. Looking forward to learning from your work!
>>
>> Are there ways in which you would like people to contribute or get involved? Or anything you would like feedback on?
>>
>> I also find the name quite unwieldy.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Louis
>>
>> On 28 Jun 2016 06:44, "Alin Popa" <alin.popa@REDACTED <mailto:alin.popa@REDACTED>> wrote:
>> Well done; I can't wait to see how it goes.
>>
>> (indeed, something's weird about that name).
>>
>> Alin
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:39 AM, Raoul Duke <raould@REDACTED <mailto:raould@REDACTED>> wrote:
>> > I've been hacking away at an ML-shaped language for the BEAM for the past few months and just opened it up. I figure a few people on the list might be interested in poking at it and may have thoughts on improvements.
>>
>>
>> super keen!
>>
>> (scary name, tho.)
>>
>> ATS supports erlang, somehow, apparently:
>> https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl <https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl>
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> De: "Oliver Korpilla" <Oliver.Korpilla@REDACTED>
> Assunto: Re: [erlang-questions] ML shaped language for the Erlang VM
> Data: 28 de junho de 2016 09:42:06 BRT
> Para: "Joshua Barney" <joshmbarney@REDACTED>
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>
> Great to see such a worthy project.
>
> I also wholeheartedly support "BeaML" as a title.
>
> Cheers,
> Oliver
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> Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2016 um 13:54 Uhr
> Von: "Joshua Barney" <joshmbarney@REDACTED>
> An: "Louis Pilfold" <louis@REDACTED>
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> Betreff: Re: [erlang-questions] ML shaped language for the Erlang VM
>
> This seems like a very fun project.
> Might I suggest the name BeaML? (Current I can't stop seeing "milf" :-/)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 28, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Louis Pilfold <louis@REDACTED> wrote:
>
> Hello!
> How exciting, I've been toying with creation of something like this myself, but my compiler knowledge isn't quite there yet. Looking forward to learning from your work!
> Are there ways in which you would like people to contribute or get involved? Or anything you would like feedback on?
> I also find the name quite unwieldy.
> Cheers,
> Louis
>
> On 28 Jun 2016 06:44, "Alin Popa" <alin.popa@REDACTED[alin.popa@REDACTED]> wrote:
> Well done; I can't wait to see how it goes.
>
> (indeed, something's weird about that name).
>
> Alin
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:39 AM, Raoul Duke <raould@REDACTED[raould@REDACTED]> wrote:> I've been hacking away at an ML-shaped language for the BEAM for the past few months and just opened it up. I figure a few people on the list might be interested in poking at it and may have thoughts on improvements.
>
>
> super keen!
>
> (scary name, tho.)
>
> ATS supports erlang, somehow, apparently:
> https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl[https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl]
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> De: Louis Pilfold <louis@REDACTED>
> Assunto: Re: [erlang-questions] ML shaped language for the Erlang VM
> Data: 28 de junho de 2016 13:10:35 BRT
> Para: Oliver Korpilla <Oliver.Korpilla@REDACTED>
> Cc: erlang-questions <erlang-questions@REDACTED>
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>
> Hey
>
> How would pronounce BeaML? It seems clumsy to say, and would be easy
> to confuse with BEAM if said too quickly.
>
> Cheers,
> Louis
>
> On 28 June 2016 at 13:42, Oliver Korpilla <Oliver.Korpilla@REDACTED> wrote:
>> Great to see such a worthy project.
>>
>> I also wholeheartedly support "BeaML" as a title.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Oliver
>>
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2016 um 13:54 Uhr
>> Von: "Joshua Barney" <joshmbarney@REDACTED>
>> An: "Louis Pilfold" <louis@REDACTED>
>> Cc: erlang-questions <erlang-questions@REDACTED>
>> Betreff: Re: [erlang-questions] ML shaped language for the Erlang VM
>>
>> This seems like a very fun project.
>> Might I suggest the name BeaML? (Current I can't stop seeing "milf" :-/)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Louis Pilfold <louis@REDACTED> wrote:
>>
>> Hello!
>> How exciting, I've been toying with creation of something like this myself, but my compiler knowledge isn't quite there yet. Looking forward to learning from your work!
>> Are there ways in which you would like people to contribute or get involved? Or anything you would like feedback on?
>> I also find the name quite unwieldy.
>> Cheers,
>> Louis
>>
>> On 28 Jun 2016 06:44, "Alin Popa" <alin.popa@REDACTED[alin.popa@REDACTED]> wrote:
>> Well done; I can't wait to see how it goes.
>>
>> (indeed, something's weird about that name).
>>
>> Alin
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:39 AM, Raoul Duke <raould@REDACTED[raould@REDACTED]> wrote:> I've been hacking away at an ML-shaped language for the BEAM for the past few months and just opened it up. I figure a few people on the list might be interested in poking at it and may have thoughts on improvements.
>>
>>
>> super keen!
>>
>> (scary name, tho.)
>>
>> ATS supports erlang, somehow, apparently:
>> https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl[https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl]
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> De: Oliver Korpilla <oliver.korpilla@REDACTED>
> Assunto: Re: [erlang-questions] ML shaped language for the Erlang VM
> Data: 28 de junho de 2016 13:43:02 BRT
> Para: Louis Pilfold <louis@REDACTED>
> Cc: erlang-questions <erlang-questions@REDACTED>
>
>
> Beam-el.
>
> On June 28, 2016 6:10:35 PM CEST, Louis Pilfold <louis@REDACTED> wrote:
> Hey
>
> How would pronounce BeaML? It seems clumsy to say, and would be easy
> to confuse with BEAM if said too quickly.
>
> Cheers,
> Louis
>
> On 28 June 2016 at 13:42, Oliver Korpilla <Oliver.Korpilla@REDACTED> wrote:
> Great to see such a worthy project.
>
> I also wholeheartedly support "BeaML" as a title.
>
> Cheers,
> Oliver
>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2016 um 13:54 Uhr
> Von: "Joshua Barney" <joshmbarney@REDACTED>
> An: "Louis Pilfold" <louis@REDACTED>
> Cc: erlang-questions <erlang-questions@REDACTED>
> Betreff: Re: [erlang-questions] ML shaped language for the Erlang VM
>
> This seems like a very fun project.
> Might I suggest the name BeaML? (Current I can't stop seeing "milf" :-/)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 28, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Louis Pilfold <louis@REDACTED> wrote:
>
> Hello!
> How exciting, I've been toying with creation of something like this myself, but my compiler knowledge isn't quite there yet. Looking forward to learning from your work!
> Are there ways in which you would like people to contribute or get involved? Or anything you would like feedback on?
> I also find the name quite unwieldy.
> Cheers,
> Louis
>
> On 28 Jun 2016 06:44, "Alin Popa" <alin.popa@REDACTED[alin.popa@REDACTED]> wrote:
> Well done; I can't wait to see how it goes.
>
> (indeed, something's weird about that name).
>
> Alin
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:39 AM, Raoul Duke <raould@REDACTED[raould@REDACTED]> wrote:> I've been hacking away at an ML-shaped language for the BEAM for the past few months and just opened it up. I figure a few people on the list might be interested in poking at it and may have thoughts on improvements.
>
>
> super keen!
>
> (scary name, tho.)
>
> ATS supports erlang, somehow, apparently:
> https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl <https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl>[https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl <https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl>]
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> De: Joshua Barney <joshmbarney@REDACTED>
> Assunto: Re: [erlang-questions] ML shaped language for the Erlang VM
> Data: 28 de junho de 2016 14:00:34 BRT
> Para: Louis Pilfold <louis@REDACTED>
> Cc: erlang-questions <erlang-questions@REDACTED>
>
>
> Yeah I can see that being a concern, but I think "bee-mul" or "beem-el" with two syllables is clearly different from beam.
>
> Do you have a preferred pronunciation of MLFE?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Louis Pilfold <louis@REDACTED> wrote:
>>
>> Hey
>>
>> How would pronounce BeaML? It seems clumsy to say, and would be easy
>> to confuse with BEAM if said too quickly.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Louis
>>
>>> On 28 June 2016 at 13:42, Oliver Korpilla <Oliver.Korpilla@REDACTED> wrote:
>>> Great to see such a worthy project.
>>>
>>> I also wholeheartedly support "BeaML" as a title.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Oliver
>>>
>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2016 um 13:54 Uhr
>>> Von: "Joshua Barney" <joshmbarney@REDACTED>
>>> An: "Louis Pilfold" <louis@REDACTED>
>>> Cc: erlang-questions <erlang-questions@REDACTED>
>>> Betreff: Re: [erlang-questions] ML shaped language for the Erlang VM
>>>
>>> This seems like a very fun project.
>>> Might I suggest the name BeaML? (Current I can't stop seeing "milf" :-/)
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Louis Pilfold <louis@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello!
>>> How exciting, I've been toying with creation of something like this myself, but my compiler knowledge isn't quite there yet. Looking forward to learning from your work!
>>> Are there ways in which you would like people to contribute or get involved? Or anything you would like feedback on?
>>> I also find the name quite unwieldy.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Louis
>>>
>>> On 28 Jun 2016 06:44, "Alin Popa" <alin.popa@REDACTED[alin.popa@REDACTED]> wrote:
>>> Well done; I can't wait to see how it goes.
>>>
>>> (indeed, something's weird about that name).
>>>
>>> Alin
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:39 AM, Raoul Duke <raould@REDACTED[raould@REDACTED]> wrote:> I've been hacking away at an ML-shaped language for the BEAM for the past few months and just opened it up. I figure a few people on the list might be interested in poking at it and may have thoughts on improvements.
>>>
>>>
>>> super keen!
>>>
>>> (scary name, tho.)
>>>
>>> ATS supports erlang, somehow, apparently:
>>> https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl[https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl]
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> De: Rickard Andersson <rickard.m.andersson@REDACTED>
> Assunto: Re: [erlang-questions] ML shaped language for the Erlang VM
> Data: 28 de junho de 2016 13:22:03 BRT
> Para: erlang-questions@REDACTED
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> Simply like "BML", no? Something like "BeeML", only spelled "BeaML".
>
>
> On 28-Jun-16 19:10, Louis Pilfold wrote:
>> Hey
>>
>> How would pronounce BeaML? It seems clumsy to say, and would be easy
>> to confuse with BEAM if said too quickly.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Louis
>>
>> On 28 June 2016 at 13:42, Oliver Korpilla <Oliver.Korpilla@REDACTED> wrote:
>>> Great to see such a worthy project.
>>>
>>> I also wholeheartedly support "BeaML" as a title.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Oliver
>>>
>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2016 um 13:54 Uhr
>>> Von: "Joshua Barney" <joshmbarney@REDACTED>
>>> An: "Louis Pilfold" <louis@REDACTED>
>>> Cc: erlang-questions <erlang-questions@REDACTED>
>>> Betreff: Re: [erlang-questions] ML shaped language for the Erlang VM
>>>
>>> This seems like a very fun project.
>>> Might I suggest the name BeaML? (Current I can't stop seeing "milf" :-/)
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Louis Pilfold <louis@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello!
>>> How exciting, I've been toying with creation of something like this myself, but my compiler knowledge isn't quite there yet. Looking forward to learning from your work!
>>> Are there ways in which you would like people to contribute or get involved? Or anything you would like feedback on?
>>> I also find the name quite unwieldy.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Louis
>>>
>>> On 28 Jun 2016 06:44, "Alin Popa" <alin.popa@REDACTED[alin.popa@REDACTED]> wrote:
>>> Well done; I can't wait to see how it goes.
>>>
>>> (indeed, something's weird about that name).
>>>
>>> Alin
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:39 AM, Raoul Duke <raould@REDACTED[raould@REDACTED]> wrote:> I've been hacking away at an ML-shaped language for the BEAM for the past few months and just opened it up. I figure a few people on the list might be interested in poking at it and may have thoughts on improvements.
>>>
>>>
>>> super keen!
>>>
>>> (scary name, tho.)
>>>
>>> ATS supports erlang, somehow, apparently:
>>> https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl[https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl]
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> De: Felix Gallo <felixgallo@REDACTED>
> Assunto: Re: [erlang-questions] ML shaped language for the Erlang VM
> Data: 28 de junho de 2016 14:25:32 BRT
> Para: Rickard Andersson <rickard.m.andersson@REDACTED>
> Cc: "erlang-questions@REDACTED" <erlang-questions@REDACTED>
>
>
> MLFE is clearly a tribute to Dr. Melfi, Tony Soprano's therapist (http://sopranos.wikia.com/wiki/Jennifer_Melfi <http://sopranos.wikia.com/wiki/Jennifer_Melfi>), and would have to be pronounced that way...
>
> F.
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> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Rickard Andersson <rickard.m.andersson@REDACTED <mailto:rickard.m.andersson@REDACTED>> wrote:
> Simply like "BML", no? Something like "BeeML", only spelled "BeaML".
>
>
>
> On 28-Jun-16 19:10, Louis Pilfold wrote:
> Hey
>
> How would pronounce BeaML? It seems clumsy to say, and would be easy
> to confuse with BEAM if said too quickly.
>
> Cheers,
> Louis
>
> On 28 June 2016 at 13:42, Oliver Korpilla <Oliver.Korpilla@REDACTED <mailto:Oliver.Korpilla@REDACTED>> wrote:
> Great to see such a worthy project.
>
> I also wholeheartedly support "BeaML" as a title.
>
> Cheers,
> Oliver
>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2016 um 13:54 Uhr
> Von: "Joshua Barney" <joshmbarney@REDACTED <mailto:joshmbarney@REDACTED>>
> An: "Louis Pilfold" <louis@REDACTED <mailto:louis@REDACTED>>
> Cc: erlang-questions <erlang-questions@REDACTED <mailto:erlang-questions@REDACTED>>
> Betreff: Re: [erlang-questions] ML shaped language for the Erlang VM
>
> This seems like a very fun project.
> Might I suggest the name BeaML? (Current I can't stop seeing "milf" :-/)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 28, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Louis Pilfold <louis@REDACTED <mailto:louis@REDACTED>> wrote:
>
> Hello!
> How exciting, I've been toying with creation of something like this myself, but my compiler knowledge isn't quite there yet. Looking forward to learning from your work!
> Are there ways in which you would like people to contribute or get involved? Or anything you would like feedback on?
> I also find the name quite unwieldy.
> Cheers,
> Louis
>
> On 28 Jun 2016 06:44, "Alin Popa" <alin.popa@REDACTED <mailto:alin.popa@REDACTED>[alin.popa@REDACTED <mailto:alin.popa@REDACTED>]> wrote:
> Well done; I can't wait to see how it goes.
>
> (indeed, something's weird about that name).
>
> Alin
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:39 AM, Raoul Duke <raould@REDACTED <mailto:raould@REDACTED>[raould@REDACTED <mailto:raould@REDACTED>]> wrote:> I've been hacking away at an ML-shaped language for the BEAM for the past few months and just opened it up. I figure a few people on the list might be interested in poking at it and may have thoughts on improvements.
>
>
> super keen!
>
> (scary name, tho.)
>
> ATS supports erlang, somehow, apparently:
> https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl[https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl] <https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl%5Bhttps://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl%5D>
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> De: Tristan Sloughter <t@REDACTED>
> Assunto: Re: [erlang-questions] ML shaped language for the Erlang VM
> Data: 28 de junho de 2016 14:34:31 BRT
> Para: Rickard Andersson <rickard.m.andersson@REDACTED>, erlang-questions@REDACTED
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> I like BML, it is similar to BMO from Adventure Time :) -- which gives
> the opening for a mascot!
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> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016, at 11:22 AM, Rickard Andersson wrote:
>> Simply like "BML", no? Something like "BeeML", only spelled "BeaML".
>>
>>
>> On 28-Jun-16 19:10, Louis Pilfold wrote:
>>> Hey
>>>
>>> How would pronounce BeaML? It seems clumsy to say, and would be easy
>>> to confuse with BEAM if said too quickly.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Louis
>>>
>>> On 28 June 2016 at 13:42, Oliver Korpilla <Oliver.Korpilla@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>> Great to see such a worthy project.
>>>>
>>>> I also wholeheartedly support "BeaML" as a title.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Oliver
>>>>
>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2016 um 13:54 Uhr
>>>> Von: "Joshua Barney" <joshmbarney@REDACTED>
>>>> An: "Louis Pilfold" <louis@REDACTED>
>>>> Cc: erlang-questions <erlang-questions@REDACTED>
>>>> Betreff: Re: [erlang-questions] ML shaped language for the Erlang VM
>>>>
>>>> This seems like a very fun project.
>>>> Might I suggest the name BeaML? (Current I can't stop seeing "milf" :-/)
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Louis Pilfold <louis@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello!
>>>> How exciting, I've been toying with creation of something like this myself, but my compiler knowledge isn't quite there yet. Looking forward to learning from your work!
>>>> Are there ways in which you would like people to contribute or get involved? Or anything you would like feedback on?
>>>> I also find the name quite unwieldy.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Louis
>>>>
>>>> On 28 Jun 2016 06:44, "Alin Popa" <alin.popa@REDACTED[alin.popa@REDACTED]> wrote:
>>>> Well done; I can't wait to see how it goes.
>>>>
>>>> (indeed, something's weird about that name).
>>>>
>>>> Alin
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:39 AM, Raoul Duke <raould@REDACTED[raould@REDACTED]> wrote:> I've been hacking away at an ML-shaped language for the BEAM for the past few months and just opened it up. I figure a few people on the list might be interested in poking at it and may have thoughts on improvements.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> super keen!
>>>>
>>>> (scary name, tho.)
>>>>
>>>> ATS supports erlang, somehow, apparently:
>>>> https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl[https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/tree/master/projects/MEDIUM/CATS-atsccomp/CATS-atscc2erl]
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> De: "Richard A. O'Keefe" <ok@REDACTED>
> Assunto: Re: [erlang-questions] ML shaped language for the Erlang VM
> Data: 28 de junho de 2016 20:39:57 BRT
> Para: <erlang-questions@REDACTED>
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> On 29/06/16 4:10 AM, Louis Pilfold wrote:
>> How would pronounce BeaML?
>
> bee-mill, presumably.
>
> I note that Elixir is sort of Ruby-Flavour Erlang,
> but it's not called RFE.
>
> Since it's CAML-flavoured rather than (S)ML-flavoured,
> perhaps CARMEL (CAml-Resembling Modified Erlang Language)
> might work as a name.
>
> It's an excellent thing that Jeremy Pierre is doing.
>
> I have never been able to stomach CAML syntax despite
> my great respect for the work of Xavier Leroy and
> awed admiration for some of the things that have been
> done with it. F# now has a "lite" syntax that comes
> closer to something I could bear to use. There is
> some very interesting data mining work being done in
> F#, and that might also serve as an inspiration.
>
> I got quite excited at the thought of something like
> ML running in Erlang, and was bitterly disappointed
> to find it was no such thing. If you put "ML" in the
> name, you *will* raise and dash just such hopes.
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