[erlang-questions] Garbage collection

Chandru chandrashekhar.mullaparthi@REDACTED
Fri Oct 31 11:06:16 CET 2014


On 31 October 2014 10:01, Lukas Larsson <lukas@REDACTED> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Chandru <
> chandrashekhar.mullaparthi@REDACTED> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Lukas.
>>
>> On 31 October 2014 09:37, Lukas Larsson <lukas@REDACTED> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Chandrashekhar Mullaparthi <
>>> chandrashekhar.mullaparthi@REDACTED> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a question about beam’s GC implementation. When an erlang
>>>> process is being GCed, is the processing required to do the GC taken out of
>>>> the process’s 2000 reduction quota, or is it done after a process has been
>>>> scheduled out?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The GC work is taken out of the process' reductions. The GC is never
>>> triggered when it is scheduled out, but it can be triggered before being
>>> scheduled in, in which case the newly allotted reductions will be reduced
>>> by the GC work.
>>>
>>
>> So what happens if the process has a large heap? Can the GC end up taking
>> more time than to execute 2000 reductions? Or is it somehow time bounded?
>> If it is not time bounded, it explains a lot of the problems I'm seeing on
>> a system.
>>
>
> The current GC is not incremental, so once it has started doing work it
> cannot be interrupted. This means that if a process has a large heap it
> will block all other execution on that scheduler for the GC duration.
>

Can it also block other schedulers by any chance? Robert Virding's
presentation [1] says that every 20-40k reductions, a new master scheduler
is chosen. I'm wondering if this transition of master scheduler has to
happen while one of the scheduler's is stuck in a long GC, will it
potentially block other schedulers?

regards,
Chandru

[1]
http://www.erlang-factory.com/upload/presentations/708/HitchhikersTouroftheBEAM.pdf
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