[erlang-questions] node.js vs erlang

Mahesh Paolini-Subramanya mahesh@REDACTED
Thu Jun 19 15:42:10 CEST 2014

"Complexity" is a remarkably loaded term - I'm fairly certain that things
that are complex for me (Getting anywhere via mass-transit in Tokyo) are
pretty trivial for others (e.g., Loic).
Whats more, complexity of systems has nothing to do with the complexity of
the individual components involved (DNA is a bit of a prime example here).

That said, I would claim that erlang systems are more _comprehensible_ than
Mind you, this does require some mastery of erlang, which is not as much of
a chicken-and-egg scenario as you might imagine.


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Loïc Hoguin <essen@REDACTED> wrote:

> On 06/19/2014 03:29 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>> Loïc Hoguin wrote:
>>> On 06/18/2014 10:22 PM, Kenneth Lundin wrote:
>>>> That is what I meant, you are using a more complex setup with Erlang in
>>>> order to get more features. So the comparision with other languages
>>>> "simple setup" is not fair.
>>> The setup is more complex but the way we get there isn't. Have you
>>> read the getting started chapter[1]? The release part is smaller than
>>> it would take to explain "erl -run" or "erl -s": we don't have to
>>> write extra code for it, we don't have to manually setup paths, we
>>> don't have to deal with reltool, and so on. It's literally "create
>>> relx.config, put this in it, run make again". Bam you got a release.
>>> That part can't get any simpler.
>>> Erlang *is* more complex to use than many other languages (it is still
>>> simpler than C, C++ and the like though). Either you do things
>>> manually by downloading dependencies manually and such, or you use a
>>> build system like erlang.mk (or rebar) to automate things which
>>> requires you to create an OTP application.
>> I think that's highly debatable.  At least from my perspective, Erlang
>> ISN'T more complex than many other languages, and is perhaps simpler,
>> when you factor in the entire ecosystem required to do any kind of
>> serious work.
> I didn't repeat but what I said was about getting started, and in
> particular in a web development setting, where pretty much every other
> platform just require you to drop a file in the right folder and you're
> done.
> Erlang is simpler than C for sure, and I don't know (nor care) about Java
> but I wouldn't be surprised if it was simpler too. Only those aren't really
> used for web development. (Some people do, but you're a lot more likely to
> find a PHP web developer than a C/Java one, at least in my experience.)
> --
> Loïc Hoguin
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