[erlang-questions] Which technology I should choose?

Thu Jun 12 20:03:35 CEST 2014

Like I said in the beginning of this thread, if you're having problems with
Yaws, I'd like to hear about them. I'm one of the 3 active
developers/maintainers of Yaws. There's also the erlyaws mailing list if
you need help or advice from other users:

https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/erlyaws-list

--steve

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ivan Carmenates García <co7eb@REDACTED>
wrote:

> Yes, that is a release, that why I choose yaws from the beginning, because
> despite of that fact it is so kind of free, but yet I needed to investigate
> more tecs to select the better one.
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> Regards,
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> Ivan.
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> *De:* vinoski@REDACTED [mailto:vinoski@REDACTED] *En nombre de *Steve
> Vinoski
> *Enviado el:* jueves, 12 de junio de 2014 12:46 p.m.
> *Para:* Ivan Carmenates García
> *CC:* Loïc Hoguin; Lee Sylvester; erlang-questions
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> *Asunto:* Re: [erlang-questions] Which technology I should choose?
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> There is no requirement in Yaws that you use embedded code. It's there if
> you want to use it in your app, as are a variety of other features, but
> nothing forces you to use it if you don't want to.
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> --steve
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> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Ivan Carmenates García <
> co7eb@REDACTED> wrote:
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> Yes, I mean no embedded code like apache/php and yaws/erlang, a good and
> separate logic, like using model, view, controller,
> an example could be in the standard web design, using html, css and
> javascript,  the html file only content the struct, css file with the
> style, and the combination of two is referring in the html file id classes
> in css file, not embedding css code in the html, for the javascript part
> even more careful, using add listener events in the js file over
> registering events or embedding js code in the html. Something like that, I
> really disgust embedded code I rather a thousand of times to build a
> well-defined and separated logic.
>
> Regards,
> Ivan.
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>
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
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> De: Loïc Hoguin [mailto:essen@REDACTED]
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> Enviado el: jueves, 12 de junio de 2014 11:16 a.m.
>
> Para: Lee Sylvester
> CC: Ivan Carmenates García; erlang-questions@REDACTED
>
> Asunto: Re: [erlang-questions] Which technology I should choose?
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> But what's this cleanliness you speak of? Can you provide some examples?
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> On 06/12/2014 05:14 PM, Lee Sylvester wrote:
> > I actually think Cowboy has the most potential.  Mostly because Cowboy
> receives the most frequent updates.  However, I also love WebMachine and
> it’s cleanliness.  It would be good to have a secondary layer for Cowboy
> one of these days, that helps scaffold complex but typical web server
> requirements.  I’ve been thinking quite a bit about it.
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12 Jun 2014, at 08:56, Loïc Hoguin <essen@REDACTED> wrote:
> >
> >> No offense taken or anything. Just the way you say it makes it sound
> like you didn't know about cowboy_rest. cowboy_rest implements the same
> state machine as WebMachine, and the Cowboy router implements a similar
> routing mechanism to WebMachine, so using Cowboy or WebMachine should be
> equivalent for REST tasks, simple or not. It's the same callbacks and
> concepts etc.
> >>
> >> (If you haven't guessed from this post, yes, WebMachine was a big
> >> inspiration for many things in Cowboy.)
> >>
> >> On 06/12/2014 01:23 AM, Lee Sylvester wrote:
> >>> Hey Loïc,
> >>>
> >>> I meant nothing by it.  I had to build a Socket.IO compatible server
> >>> recently, and Cowboy was my first choice.  I simply find WebMachine
> >>> gets the job done when that job is a super simple task and I need
> >>> full REST without thinking too hard about it.
> >>>
> >>> Lee
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11 Jun 2014, at 17:21, Loïc Hoguin <essen@REDACTED
> >>> <mailto:essen@REDACTED>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Cowboy has had Webmachine based REST for more than 2 years now. Am
> >>>> I missing something obvious that Webmachine has or are people
> >>>> simply not aware of the implementation in Cowboy? If there is
> >>>> something that can be improved I'd like to hear about it.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Loïc Hoguin
> >>>> http://ninenines.eu
> >>>>
> >>>> -------- Original Message --------
> >>>> From:Lee Sylvester <lee.sylvester@REDACTED
> >>>> <mailto:lee.sylvester@REDACTED>> Sent:Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:58:48
> >>>> +0200 To:Ivan Carmenates García <co7eb@REDACTED
> >>>> <mailto:co7eb@REDACTED>> Cc:erlang-questions@REDACTED
> >>>> <mailto:questions@REDACTED>
> >>>> Subject:Re: [erlang-questions] Which technology I should choose?
> >>>>
> >>>> I find Cowboy provides a lot of flexibility, but WebMachine
> >>>> provides a “quick to market” solution.  WebMachine also helps you
> >>>> build cleaner code.  Mochiweb is useful, but since WebMachine is
> >>>> built on it, I’d say it’s WebMachine hands down.
> >>>>
> >>>> Lee
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11 Jun 2014, at 16:42, Ivan Carmenates García
> >>>> <co7eb@REDACTED <mailto:co7eb@REDACTED>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>> I’ve been wondering if I could ask for an advice from the
> >>>>> community to help me choose a good tec for a project I am developing.
> >>>>> My primordial priority is not to be productive, I like pure Erlang
> >>>>> as it is, no dummy frameworks for productivity, I’m looking for
> >>>>> something clean and powerful at the same time, I already choose
> >>>>> Extjs
> >>>>> 4.2 for the view, because the project is about accounting and
> >>>>> statistics, and the graphics and visual that extjs gives is a very
> >>>>> nice and interesting fact. I have a weak choice for yaws for the
> >>>>> server at the time.
> >>>>> What I would like to know is if there is another web server better
> >>>>> than yaws to combine it with extjs, the idea is to export an API
> >>>>> REST or another kind of API that allows a good communication with
> >>>>> extjs using json, also that supports for web-socket or any
> >>>>> real-time server push technology, that is primordial since I need a
> real-time app, ex:
> >>>>> Chicago Boss have a very interesting mechanism to do that, since
> >>>>> it use a long-polling strategy, that is very interesting, the only
> >>>>> problem and almost impossible to deal with CB is the errors
> >>>>> formatting and definition. A good documentation is required too.
> >>>>> I hope someone can help me to decide.
> >>>>> I will appreciate all kind of suggestions.
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>> Ivan.
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Loïc Hoguin
> >> http://ninenines.eu
> >
>
> --
> Loïc Hoguin
> http://ninenines.eu
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