[erlang-questions] A proposal for Unicode variable and atom names in Erlang.

Michael Richter <>
Mon Oct 22 09:32:00 CEST 2012

On 22 October 2012 15:15, Yurii Rashkovskii <> wrote:

> So you're recommending them to use function names they don't understand
>>> but name variables in a way they will understand and nobody else will?

> I guess you could read that as my recommendation (if you can't read, that
>> is).

> This was a question. How are they supposed to be "using their own
> language" if 100% of Erlang itself is in English?

Here's an experiment for you: go back over what I originally said and look
for the word "only" or "sole" or any other such term.  (Hint: this is not
possible.)  Extrapolate from those results to why I think you're beginning
to look like a strident ass.

> If this is what you consider "communication" to be, Yurii, then I'd say
>> that your 7-year-old's passion for programming didn't help you one iota.

> This is rather inappropriate, although expectable from somebody who starts
> off calling his interlocutor stupid ;)

This would be another example of your inability to communicate.  Let's go
back to my original statement.  I'll bold some key words for you:

How can *so many* *smart people* be so god-damned *dumb over this issue*?

If you can read this as me calling you stupid, you lack any and all
language skills required to critique the use of language in others.   Your
misunderstandings include (but are not limited to):

   1. Thinking this was directed solely at you.  (The construct "so many …
   people" indicates plurality.  Hell just the word "people" does that all by
   2. Skipping over the word "smart".
   3. Missing the link between "dumb" and "this issue".

Now were I mean-spirited I would, at this point, start agreeing with my
original assessment as it was interpreted by you.  I'm not, however, and
instead chalk this up to the martyr complex you've been nursing ever since
the "elders of Erlang" (as you refer to them) didn't come flocking to your
sudden fascination with Elixir.

After all it is very easy to find offence if that is all you look for.

Now consider this carefully before commenting on language and work again
(anywhere, I mean): Given that you've been speaking English since you were
7 (by your own statement, recall), and given that you managed to
misunderstand as simple a sentence as the above, are you absolutely
positive you can't see some value in people *working in their native

"Perhaps people don't believe this, but throughout all of the discussions
of entering China our focus has really been what's best for the Chinese
people. It's not been about our revenue or profit or whatnot."
--Sergey Brin, demonstrating the emptiness of the "don't be evil" mantra.
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