[erlang-questions] msg mailbox and gen_svr shutdown

Fred Hebert <>
Mon May 14 02:34:07 CEST 2012


This is just a guess, but is it possible that this is due to the fact 
Cowboy is using simple_one_for_one supervision? In Pre R15, if I recall 
correctly, the shutdown of sofo supervisors was asynchronous. The 
supervisor would just die and let its children figure out it was gone.

Starting with R15, things started being synchronous and the supervisor 
would wait. A brutal kill that made things work fine before R15 
(excluding the issue of the application master killing everything) 
could start breaking in later versions.

Again, this is just a guess, without looking at the source or anything.

On Sun May 13 14:12:18 2012, Bob Ippolito wrote:
> Yes, it is documented that request processes continue after you stop
> the listener. This is incorrect.
>
> On Sunday, May 13, 2012, Anthony Ramine wrote:
>
>     Paweł, from what I gather your supervisor waits 1 ms before
>     killing its children; I think it's pretty normal that some
>     messages are left unprocessed.
>     Bob, cowboy_requests_sup' shutdown strategy is brutal_kill, is it
>     documented somewhere that Cowboy waits before killing requests'
>     processes?
>
>     Regards,
>
>     --
>     Anthony Ramine
>
>
>
>
>     Le 10 mai 2012 à 22:37, Bob Ippolito a écrit :
>
>>     I had the same problem with Cowboy recently, really ought to file
>>     an issue to at least fix the docs for that.
>>
>>     For my app I wanted to implement a graceful shutdown that stopped
>>     accepting new connections but allowed existing requests to
>>     finish. The waiting part I implemented by adding a gproc local
>>     property to the workers that I wanted to wait for and then
>>     monitoring them.
>>
>>     Looks like this:
>>     https://gist.github.com/2655724
>>
>>     On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Paweł Peregud
>>     < <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
>>     '');>> wrote:
>>
>>         I was having fun with supervisors yesterday (Cowboy seems to
>>         fail to fulfill the promise of not killing request processes
>>         after listener removal) and I have an example. I've only
>>         investigated the case when supervisor is killed, so YMMV.
>>         Example code is attached. You may modify it to check the
>>         behavior in your case.
>>
>>         Start supervisor tree with exp_sup_sup:start_link(). Execute
>>         test with exp_sup_sup:test() and exp_sup_sup:test_simple().
>>
>>         In case of dying supervisor the answer is "no, it does not".
>>
>>         When supervisor dies, your process is killed as via link
>>         mechanism, so it may leave some unprocessed messages in
>>         inbox. To make sure that every delivered message is served,
>>         you need to add process_flag(trap_exit, true). Messages that
>>         are sent after the moment when supervisor dies are not processed.
>>
>>         Best regards,
>>
>>         Paul.
>>
>>
>>         On May 9, 2012 11:06 AM, "Andy Richards"
>>         < <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
>>         '');>> wrote:
>>
>>             Hi,
>>
>>             I can't seem to see any confirmation in the documentation
>>             so was wondering if anyone could confirm if messages are
>>             still sent to a supervised gen_svr following a shutdown
>>             message?
>>
>>             If so how do I cleanly shutdown my gen_svr without
>>             loosing messages? I read in the supervisor child spec
>>             that a shutdown can be set to infinity which i hoped
>>             would allow me to process the msg's in my mailbox but if
>>             I do this will my module continue to receive messages
>>             from other processes? Is my approach flawed and if so
>>             what other ways are there to cleanly shutting down my
>>             gen_svr without loosing messages?
>>
>>             Many thanks,
>>
>>             Andy.
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